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To: AmishDude
No one was obligated. I'm ambivalent on the whole thing. On one hand, he could have gone to the local cancer center for nothing and they're a great place.

However, putting myself in his shoes, if one place has a survival rate of 45% and the other has 46%, I'm damn well going with the one with 46% because I'm selfish and because I want to live.
You can't blame Andy for being the same way.

People aren't 'obligated' to give to FR yet they do.

Now all of this cap about wanting to see his death certificate and maybe he bought an island in South America is just low class. The case is closed, you may find money irregularities but I seriously doubt he used it to move to his private island. I'll be willing to bet that the money irregularities there are from people still living with little or none of Andy's knowledge of the fraudulent activity's existence.

Keep in mind, Andy is was no friend of mine. Our politics are 180 degrees off, does that mean I want him to suffer or die, HELL NO.

81 posted on 07/09/2005 9:29:32 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
As a regular reader of the Funnies, I got in on the bandwagon. In one post, I believe I posted what might have been some personal information (freely available on the internet), which a day or two later, I regretted. Thankfully that thread was wisely deleted by the moderator. I felt pretty sh*tty after that, and remained skeptical not only of the fund raising effort, but even of our scepticism. It is simply to easy to get caught up in such things. You see that on BOTH sides of the political spectrum, DU is about 80% like that, but that doesn't justify my doing it, so I simply watched it unfold.

My theory was that Andy was indeed sick, with something. In his understandable hysteria (too strong a word) to get the best care he could, he allowed things to be done in such a way that might arouse suspicion. Even Will Pitt agreed.

Now he is, apparently, dead. As a lurker on DU, I read many of his posts, and actually grew to like Andy for some reason. Not the political animal (I disagreed with him 99%, although I am all for verified ballots and more secure elections), but the human Soul. I felt for him, watched him talk about some of his personal and emotional problems. Sure, he could be a bit much, but he certainly was some character. Perhaps he reminded me of some of my gay friends and family, I dont know, but I surely WAS rooting for him to get better.

During this whole "Scamdy" fiasco, I was hoping that he might have a pancreatitis that he would easily recover from. That looks not to be the case, and I am truly saddened. I know alot of freepers will probably want to puke over what I just wrote, but I cared about Andy in a human way, more that I would most DUers or liberals. Rest In Peace, Andy Stephenson, my condolences to your close friends and family.

82 posted on 07/09/2005 10:40:12 PM PDT by Paradox (Ipsum Pablum)
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To: Lx
It's just the idea that somebody is "responsible" for his death if they didn't give him money or they were suspicious about him begging for it. That rubs me the wrong way.

It's been enough time, has there been an obit in the papers?

84 posted on 07/10/2005 8:55:44 AM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: Lx
However, putting myself in his shoes, if one place has a survival rate of 45% and the other has 46%, I'm damn well going with the one with 46% because I'm selfish and because I want to live.

The thing is, by putting off the surgery till he could go to the 46% place, he dropped his odds to probably 10%, and lost his gamble. Pancreatic cancer is something you just don't mess around with. Since he clearly was messing around, I didn't believe he had it, and neither did many others. Obviously we were all wrong, and I'm sure everyone is sorry that he's dead. I never wanted him dead (or even sick!), I wanted him exposed and discredited as the fraud I was convinced he was.

91 posted on 07/11/2005 5:22:37 AM PDT by nina0113
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