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To: MacDorcha
I would like to take the time, however, to point out the majority of such horrid acts made by Christians were "suppported" by the Old Testament.

Than why hasn't it been jews genociding christians, and kidnapping christian children to be brought up jewish, for the about the last 1400 years?

In point of fact, this isn't accurate. The principle of salvation isn't Old Testament, nor are the passages from the bible that have directly fueled the easter genocides, such as Matthew 27:25, where the connection between pulpit and riot is immediate.

Jesus did away with the old laws (at least, that is my understanding) and thus there is no calling for eradication of opposing ideas.

Not that this is such a very relevant defense, but You have offered no support that has much credence, that I am aware of, that The 10 Commandments are in, while the rest of God's word is out, and I think it is a difficult sell that that the 10 Commandments aren't a central part of christianity.

Thats cool about the NSA bit. Or at least, sounds cool.

Doing elint work really struck my fancy, and there was a lot that was interesting about it. Elint is so important on the battlefield now, that there couldn't be a better place to feel like your competence has a lot of leverage when you're in the shit.

Pick up another language (likely Arabic or Farcee)

I'd bet on Chinese. If you go this way, there will be an important tech school choice to make between about a year of electronics with a 12-16 week crash course at the language school at Monterey, and a year of language school, with 12-16 weeks of radio operations, electronics and decryption. You might want to think hard about what you really enjoy doing so much you could do it forever before making this choice.

266 posted on 07/13/2005 4:05:10 AM PDT by donh (qua)
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To: donh

My arguement for stating that Jesus did away with the old laws (while keeping the 10 Commandments) is due to the reasoning behind them.

The Old Laws were instructions for a group of people to follow to ensure favor with God. With the coming of Jesus, these laws were no longer required, only a following of Jesus. The focus of salvation went from being the responsibility of a nation, to a relationship with a person.

Jesus proclaimed the 10 Commandments, while denouncing the "eye for an eye" laws that were still being followed in his day.

And while the Catholic Church did a huge thing by keeping literacy a viable option in the Dark Ages, they also with held the majority of the texts' meanings from the people (opting to, instead, teach them only what THEY thought important)

This would lead to people only understanding a portion of the Bible at any given time, allowing the Pope to conduct political manuevers within such a guideline.

Then came Martin Luther.

Some people maintained their ignorance of the New Law, and thus slavery was permitted in "Christian" areas.

But also, as you pointed out, the more "organized" Christian groups (ie, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) on some parts, permitted the Nazi takeover, and even paid for several "Holy Wars". Again though, politics.

Meanwhile, The Jewish faith has kept it's Torah (a little different from the OT) but more or less gave up on it's more theistic roots.

So the Jews have become more secular, and the Christians went through being "Jews" for the 1400 years you mentioned.

They followed the Old Law, in accordance to their teachers biddings. They suffered greatly under the pagan (and often secular) Roman Empire. They then went forth, and converted many nations to their beliefs, using methods the Jews had used for centuries before on (smaller) neighboring tribes... whom they often enslaved.




OK, I'm curious... why areyou betting on Chinese? (also,my girlfriend's mother is teaching me some Mandarin... I already have some of the writing down... though my style stinks.)


269 posted on 07/13/2005 9:07:06 AM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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