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To: MacDorcha
Really? In what secular text does it say "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"?

In what theological text does it say such?

In the Holy Bible--in the same breath in which He delivered the 10 Commandments.

"Did Hitler personally slaughter 6 million jews? "

Lets see, he set up the framework, as you said... then initiated and paid for the programs of death. That would be a "yes"

The win the obtusely coy award.

You're singling out the entire Christian religion,for the practice of a few.

...popes, doctrinal councels, and tribunals. While the rest of the "innocent" stood by, just as they stood by, giving nazi salutes, just as in the pictures I showed you, while their "few" church leaders handed over documents to the SS to help them ferret jews out from the general population. I thought christian priests were supposed to be Jesus's voice on earth--not prudent, politically sensitive guys who shut up and mind their own business while, for example, their pope slaughters Anabaptist children. I don't have trouble finding the slaughter of the Anabaptists in my history book--the horrified, revulsed, biblically inspired uprising of christian priests everywhere because of that event does not seem to have caught the average historian's eye.

I see your head is still in a very dark place.

Not as dark and hysterically unhistoric, I'd suggest, as someone who casually characterizes the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the witchhunting as the work of a few renegade priests. Read the papal encyclical "The Hammer of Witches", and tell me with a straight face that the numerous multi-story houses built throughout Europe for torturing and murdering witches were the work of a couple of renegade priests.

In the meanwhile, not saying a thing about Soviet mass-graves of theologins and other thinking people out there.

Should a judge let a serial killer go free because there are other serial killers still on the loose?

For God's sake, a vastly Protestant Christian Western culture came to their aid!

No, they didn't, the countries you specified were fighting Hitler because of the obvious threat he was to their national sovereignty. Jewish slaughter was not the trigger or the motivation for war in either case, as evidenced by the famous boatload of jewish refugees the US returned to Hitler's bosom, and Roosevelt's and the Pope's reluctance to publicly acknowledge the camps, and call for the interdiction of the tracks or excommunicate the participants, long after the documentation was massively in hand.

USA and UK were in it, and by God, they were filled (and still are, I might add) with Christians.

Including Father Coghlan, and any number of other local radio voices braying out daily anti-semitic diatribes. There is nothing to make me think US and UK churches would not have helped Hitler ferret out jews, just as their counterparts in Europe did, had Hitler won the war.

And quit quoting the ADL on FR, it makes the rest of us look real bad.

I don't know what the ADL is, but I assure you, you don't need my help to make christians promulgators appear utterly irresponsible toward the historical record of the doctrine they spread.

238 posted on 07/08/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT by donh (qua)
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To: donh

"In the Holy Bible--in the same breath in which He delivered the 10 Commandments. "

Oh Puh-leez. Show me where it says that. Did you make up an 11th Commandment?



The win the obtusely coy award.

Better than winning the slyly assinine one. I'll take it.


"While the rest of the "innocent" stood by, just as they stood by, giving nazi salutes, just as in the pictures I showed you,"

And again you ignore the rest of the Western Hemisphere that in fact DID do something. I'll note you dropped the "America was full of Protestants" part of my speal.



"I don't know what the ADL is"

Anti-defimatnion league. A kosher version of the Rainbow Coalition. And about as trustworthy.

Now you know.


"Jewish slaughter was not the trigger or the motivation for war in either case, as evidenced by the famous boatload of jewish refugees the US returned to Hitler's bosom,"

I'm sorry, I mised the part where the Holocaust was common knowledge outside of German territory at that time. Please, explain.

I know that it was spoken that the Nazi's were taking the Jews out of Europe (Aryan vs Semites... Hell, Muslims-also semitic, if you missed that- were targeted as well, but there just wasn't the presence) But as for killings and experimenting, you'd be hard pressed to find even a German Leutnant who would have had any working knowledge of such things.

That's why the SS was seperate. Only the "elites" knew the "grand scheme"


240 posted on 07/08/2005 9:48:30 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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