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Establishment Beginning to Pay Attention (Dollar Crisis Alert)
JSMineset ^ | June 16, 2005 | Jim Sinclair

Posted on 06/16/2005 2:34:00 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC

Thursday, June 16, 2005

Establishment Beginning to Pay Attention

Author: Jim Sinclair

Since May the establishment has quietly begun to listen and will continue to do so.

What I told you would transpire has in fact happened. You know this by the courage of Mr. Peter G. Peterson, a man of such stature that when speaking on financial TV he cannot be interrupted by producers who don't like his script. That is not to say that the drop dead, beautiful, central-casting interviewer did not try to place words in this gentleman's mouth. That strategy fell flat on its face.

Mr. Peterson is the Chairman and one of the founders of the outrageously successful Blackstone Group. He is Chairman of the Council of Foreign Relations, founding Chairman of the Institute of International Economics (Washington DC), founding President of the Concord Coalition. Mr. Peterson was the Co-Chair of the Conference Board Commission on Public Trust and Private enterprises (Co-Chaired by John Snow, currently Secretary of the US Treasury). He was Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York from 2000 to 2004.

Mr. Peterson spoke of his close and personal relationship with Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan. He made many extremely important points in his conversation:

1. He spoke of three serious deficits, the Budget Deficit, Trade Deficit and what he considered to be the most important, the Current Account Deficit.

2. He added to these deficits what he considered to be just as important, the deficit in personal savings by US consumers.

3. He pointed out that a cumulative Budget Deficit of US$7 trillion was looming in this generation.

4. He spoke of Chairman Volcker's opinion on a lower US dollar.

5. He spoke of a prestigious group of 12 people and their views on the US dollar of which 11 expect it to go between 10 and 15 percentage points lower.

6. He pointed out that a Current Account Deficit running at 6 ½ percent of GDP must be considered as another cumulative item that will result in a foreign debt equal to 125% of a single year's GDP.

7. He pointed out that the servicing cost of this debt is a factor and possibly the most serious concern.

8. He concluded with the comment that expectation that international entities will continue to support this growth and the cumulative nature of the Current Account Deficit by purchasing US debt is not necessarily guaranteed.

The beautiful lady interviewer - visibly unsettled - broke for an advertising sponsor promising to have Mr. Peterson back. We have not seen Mr. Petersen yet and an hour has passed.

Axiom number one of a generational bull market is that the Gold Community is either out of the market or totally committed and as a result is no factor in the major upward move in gold and precious metals shares.

Axiom number two of generational bull markets in gold is that the major move in both gold shares and gold itself is the establishment - not the so-called Gold Community.

The establishment will listen to Mr. Peterson. The move toward gold by the big guns has started. The shorts are cunningly trying to cover. It is only six short months until 2006 is upon us. In my opinion, 2006 to 2008 will be our best years ever.

Wait until 1/1/06 and you will find you are much too late. Things always start quietly before it becomes apparent. People trying to time the market perfectly are going to be left behind in the comet's debris trail.

The establishment interest has started. It took form last May in the majors and is beginning now in the juniors - not January 1st, 2006.


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KEYWORDS: budgetdeficit; china; currentaccount; equities; federalreserve; gdp; gold; japan; jsmineset; paulvolcker; personalsavings; russia; tradedeficit; usdollar
This comes from a non-profit website run by the guy who called the last bull market in gold. Notice how the dollar is rising --and-- gold is rising? Strange isn't it? Well the above gives you a bulleted list as to why this is happening.

Got gold?

1 posted on 06/16/2005 2:34:00 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: GOP_1900AD; Uncle George; mudblood; AnimalLover; hedgetrimmer; John Lenin; AnnaZ; zzen01; ...

For gold's versus the dollar, see the following chart. Notice how gold and the dollar are the inverse of each other. But now gold is beginning to rise WITH the dollar. This means that, at least for now, gold is beginning to assert itself, and will continue to do so for some time IMO.

http://www.a1-guide-to-gold-investments.com/images/Gold-Dow-USD-5yr.gif


2 posted on 06/16/2005 2:36:59 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Sorry, it'll ALL be worthless soon enough. Water, food, and ammo will be the currencies of trade.


3 posted on 06/16/2005 2:39:42 PM PDT by datura (We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry, and you know it'll happen again. That's the truth about men.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC; Arleigh; Bloody Sam Roberts; cibco; DB; Dr. Scarpetta; freekitty; gumbo; ...

I've 'got gold' but be careful who you are listening to. These guys are big gold marketers, so some of their advice may be oriented toward lining their own pockets.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 3:07:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
From the posted piece:
1. He spoke of three serious deficits, the Budget Deficit, Trade Deficit and what he considered to be the most important, the Current Account Deficit.

2. He added to these deficits what he considered to be just as important, the deficit in personal savings by US consumers.

Question: Are men making most of the save-or-spend decisions?

Answer: No. Women are.

And yes, gold has been good to investors again, recently. But watch out. Gold is a good superconductor, but it's not used very much. It doesn't have many real uses toward feeding us and the like.

Sooner or later,...

Land and putting it to work (or at least maintaining its readiness to work) is the one greatest investment to fall back on in the roughest of times, IMO. It is, that is, unless we give it all to socialism by avoiding action against stupid social practices (like family breaking legislation and bureaucracies) for fast bucks today (like fattening labor pools with broken marriages).
5 posted on 06/16/2005 3:22:43 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
"Land and putting it to work (or at least maintaining its readiness to work) is the one greatest investment to fall back on in the roughest of times..."

But will you be able to keep any land without having gold to ride up as the currency slips down? Or will the bank be putting you to work as a share-cropper, getting their land ready to work?

6 posted on 06/16/2005 3:43:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor
"But will you be able to keep any land without having gold to ride up as the currency slips down? Or will the bank be putting you to work as a share-cropper, getting their land ready to work?"

No to the first question, if you only have temporary possession because of a loan from a bank. Yes to the second question, if you only have temporary possession because of a loan from a bank. ...same if land taxes are very high (socialism) where the land is.
7 posted on 06/16/2005 3:56:53 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: editor-surveyor

==I've 'got gold' but be careful who you are listening to...

You are, of course, correct. That's why I posted an article from a non-profit site. Here is his bio, and as the last paragraph makes clear, he operates his site purely as a public service:

Jim Sinclair is primarily a precious metals specialist and a commodities and foreign currency trader. He founded the Sinclair Group of Companies (1977), which offered full brokerage services in stocks, bonds, and other investment vehicles. The companies, which operated branches in New York, Kansas City, Toronto, Chicago, London and Geneva, were sold in 1983.

From 1981 to 1984, Mr. Sinclair served as a Precious Metals Advisor to Hunt Oil and the Hunt family for the liquidation of their silver position as a prerequisite for the $1 billion loan arranged by the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Paul Volker.

He was also a General Partner and Member of the Executive Committee of two New York Stock Exchange firms and President of Sinclair Global Clearing Corporation (commodity clearing firm) and Global Arbitrage (derivative dealer in metals and currencies).

In April 2002, shareholders of Tan Range Exploration approved the acquisition of Tanzania American International, a company controlled by the Sinclair family, for shares in Tan Range. Following this transaction, Mr. Sinclair became Chairman of Tan Range and now leads its efforts to become a gold royalty company.

He has authored numerous magazine articles and three books dealing with a variety of investment subjects, including precious metals, trading strategies and geopolitical events, and their relationship to world economics and the markets. He is a frequent and enormously popular speaker at gold investment conferences and his commentary on gold and other financial issues garners extensive media coverage at home and abroad.

In January 2003, Mr. Sinclair launched, "Jim Sinclairs MineSet," which now hosts his gold commentary and is intended as a free service to the gold community.


8 posted on 06/16/2005 3:57:29 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: familyop

==Land and putting it to work (or at least maintaining its readiness to work) is the one greatest investment to fall back on in the roughest of times, IMO.

In the short run (next couple of years, and for as long as it takes for it to recover), the housing and land markets are poised for a major crash. That is, once the TIC shows negative numbers three time in a row. It has already done this twice. That is one of the reasons why gold is appreciating at the same time as the dollar is appreciating. Although, the dollar rally is only temporary IMO. Look for it to start declining fast in the very near future (again, IMO).


9 posted on 06/16/2005 4:02:04 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

I agree with all of what you wrote for "the short run." Predictions are predictions, but your guesses look really well researched. And yes, I was talking about the long run while alluding to artificial markets.


10 posted on 06/16/2005 4:09:17 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
==Predictions are predictions, but your guesses look really well researched. And yes, I was talking about the long run while alluding to artificial markets.

I don't pretend to be an expert, but I have been studying the gold market (and everything that impacts the gold market) for the past several years. I have profited quit handsomely in gold not long after it began to rise in 2001. This was mostly due to the fact that I was willing to learn and apply what I learned from Jim Sinclair's (non-profit) website. I rode gold from just over $250 and ounce to $430, and then again from $400 all the up to $450 ($10 shy from the high). I am convinced that we are poised to ride the next leg up. Very strange thing though, historically, gold has always risen when the dollar declines, the stock market declines, and the housing market declines. Now we find ourselves (totally a-historical as far as I can tell) in a situation where gold is appreciating at the same time the three others are appreciating. Can you imagine what gold will do when they decline? Gold is like a beacon of bad news. When the gold prices start flashing longer than a passing blip (in this case since 2001), the flashing is almost always pointing to a major economic structural problem that the market prognosticators are not psychologically prepared to admit. That's why I am buying gold. The fact that gold is rising while all of its traditional enemies are rising suggests that the economic structural imbalances are in the extreme red zone. And when these natural and artificial imbalances finally seek equilibrium, Gold will skyrocket in a way that makes the rise in 2001 look like it was trading sideway! At any rate, thanks for keeping an open mind. Here's wishing you a happy and profitable 2005-2006--HUAC
11 posted on 06/16/2005 4:55:12 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: datura
Water, food, and ammo will be the currencies of trade.

And canned fruit. Don't forget canned fruit.

12 posted on 06/16/2005 5:21:19 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: datura
==Sorry, it'll ALL be worthless soon enough. Water, food, and ammo will be the currencies of trade.

Perhaps, in the very worst case scenario. But gold will rise to its all-time high in the meantime. You might even say that it will presage the inauguration of the horrifying reality that you describe. And its rise will allow you to buy a whole heck of a lot more sporting equipment than you have now!
13 posted on 06/16/2005 5:25:29 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: editor-surveyor
4. He spoke of Chairman Volcker's opinion on a lower US dollar.

Is he perhaps referring to Chairman Greenspan? Chairman of the Federal Reserve?

I wouldn't ask for Paul Volcker's opinion on the weather let alone monitary issues.

14 posted on 06/16/2005 8:48:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk)
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To: Tribune7
Water, food, and ammo will be the currencies of trade.

And canned fruit. Don't forget canned fruit.

psst... toilet paper?

15 posted on 06/17/2005 5:46:35 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: cibco

And toilet paper. Two-ply will be worth it's wait in gold.


16 posted on 06/17/2005 6:11:30 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: editor-surveyor
I've 'got gold' but be careful who you are listening to. These guys are big gold marketers, so some of their advice may be oriented toward lining their own pockets.

Sorry about the tardiness of my reply to your ping (I have no idea who you are), but you are spot on...There is a guy who buys time all over the radio spectrum (the Goldline International's Joseph C. Battaglia), this dude, every time I listen to him, mixes his gold pitch with some of the most anti-Bush, pro-leftist drivel one could imagine. I think he intentionally wants the country to fail so gold skyrockets.

17 posted on 06/26/2005 9:21:57 PM PDT by Outraged (Time to put pressure on the party)
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"I wouldn't ask for Paul Volcker's opinion on the weather let alone monitary issues."

The gold sellers love Volker; he made them a mint, and then some when he was chairman.

18 posted on 06/26/2005 9:26:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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