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Analyzing the 2008 Field (Vanity)
Dustin Hawkins ^ | 5-31-2005 | Dustin hawkins

Posted on 05/31/2005 6:46:53 PM PDT by Dustin Hawkins

Who will win in 2008? (Duh, it is only 3 years away)

See the players here

Features Analysis and Interest Group Ratings of "Players"

Check it out. let me know if I missed some "important players" or if you have more IGR ratings on some of the potential runners. I also want feedback on the candidates, how likely are you to vote for each. Ok, I'm done. ; )

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To: Alberta's Child
I hope they check all the closets for skelatons early and often.

Allen is my first choice by far.

If Hillary Clinton was a Republican, she would be a shoe-in.

If she runs, her opponent must tread a fine line between being anti-Clinton and anti-woman.

It could be a similar race to when her husband beat GHWB if W can prevail in the war on terror.

I fear Americans are just stupid enough to elect another Clintoon.

I hope I am very wrong.

21 posted on 05/31/2005 7:07:51 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: Jaysun
Yeah, the field will be tough to sort out. Maybe I will just give in and vote for Hillary. She seems like a nice young lady. Hmmm.... yeah, uhh, ok.
22 posted on 05/31/2005 7:10:07 PM PDT by Dustin Hawkins (dustinmhawkins.com)
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To: Dustin Hawkins
I like Allen. Allen didn't run and hide on the filibuster issue. He was out front in his support of ending judicial filibuster and that means a lot to me.
23 posted on 05/31/2005 7:10:44 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: Dustin Hawkins
When I bet the ponies I look first at the jockeys. The best jockeys ride the best horses. Next I look at the trainers. The best trainers train the best horses. Then I look at the owners, and finally the track record of the horse itself.

Show me for whom Melham and Rove are going to work and I'll tell you who the front runners will be.

Next look at the pollsters for each candidate, then the advertising agencies, then the finance chairmen, then the consultant/advisers in each issue area , then the spokesperson, advance team, candidate's wife.....

Look at the people and organizations that are endorsing the candidates.

Then finally look at the candidate to see if he has the physical stamina and mental discipline to let his organization do its job instead of shooting in all directions like a loose cannon.

Unfortunately some people would bet on a candidate who's running the whole show himself or letting his little sister run show it. Those candidates are called "vanity candidates" and there will be a bunch of them in 2008. They're just trying to sell books, compile mailing lists and get cheap publicity.

24 posted on 05/31/2005 7:11:10 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: Dustin Hawkins

Yes he will!


25 posted on 05/31/2005 7:11:13 PM PDT by pissant (Ruby Red)
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To: Dustin Hawkins

Brown/Rice


Sorry, I haven't had dinner yet.


27 posted on 05/31/2005 7:13:21 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: Dustin Hawkins

Good analysis except the Allen beating Clinton comes down to Ohio and Florida.
For all of Dean's bluster, they are are not going to compete anywhere else in the Midwest or South except for maybe MO or ARK.
Hill has a huge man problem, think we're going to see her in a duck blind? (yeah and watch the NEA and Emily's List faint).
Sure the MSM is going to go gaga over the first woman President and a Clinton to boot but it won't be until she actually declares that her true negatives will show up.
Allen, btw, has a history of coming from behind and cleaning clock when it counts.
He has a hand-picked by Clinton female candidate's scalp hanging on his belt from his last Senate race, he's not afraid of running against a woman.
If you look at the list of perceived candidates, Allen is the only one who has won a bruising campaign in a Red swing state.


28 posted on 05/31/2005 7:15:48 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: Dustin Hawkins
Yeah, the field will be tough to sort out. Maybe I will just give in and vote for Hillary. She seems like a nice young lady. Hmmm.... yeah, uhh, ok.

What? I said Allen was good.
29 posted on 05/31/2005 7:16:28 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Powerclam

My only reservation with Rice is she's pro-choice. I don't know if the conservative base would back her. But, you're right about Tancredo being a polarizing figure. The secret service would really be earning their pay watching him.


30 posted on 05/31/2005 7:24:06 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: Dustin Hawkins

Abortion is over politicized. Abortion should not be a defining issue or a litmus test for an elected or appointed position. The abortion issue detracts from immediate and far-reaching issues that affect all citizens more equally and more profoundly. Medical Ethics should define what is the MORAL difference between infanticide and partial birth abortion on demand (aka "rights".) Certainly, politicians and political appointees are neither astute nor wise enough, nor trustworthy in deciding matters of ethics and morals, and where the value of LIFE begins and ends.

Abortion is a pander/polarizing issue. Issues should focus on the better interests of all citizens - security and economy, and upholding our REPUBLIC's constitution. Oh, we face a glaring issue which is protecting America from the ACLU's aggressive subversive activism.

Thanks for the invite to your site.


32 posted on 05/31/2005 7:26:25 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: Powerclam
You've already been told why Condi is the logical best choice. Policies, name recognition, strategic demographics. The article adds a good one - "incumbency factor." Bayourod (iirc) raises some very good pragmatic considerations, but stopped short of answering his own questions... seems to me that Condi fits HIS bill quite nicely, regarding organizational fit et al.

What are her policies? Seems to me that most people support her "just because".
33 posted on 05/31/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: WoodstockCat
Hill has a huge man problem, think we're going to see her in a duck blind?

She's already ordered the Camo pant suit.

34 posted on 05/31/2005 7:30:29 PM PDT by byteback
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To: purpleland

It's absurd to leave moral and ethical decisions concerning abortions to those who are paid to perform them. Medical Ethics have been abandoned - the mass majority of abortions are unnecessary, and their sole purpose is to end life (hardly ethical).


37 posted on 05/31/2005 8:16:21 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Powerclam
Fair enough. Maybe she's be a great candidate, but most have yet to discuss the matter - that was my point. This is one of the few times I've seen someone actually point to some of her policies.

One thing though, she did say that she wasn't running. Maybe she changed her mind.

She's an accomplishest scholar, concert pianist and skater. Bush has an iPod and watches Arnie movies.

I don't give a sh*t if she's Reagan incarnate, she's not competing with the president and there's no reason to insult him. We might not even be discussing her if he hadn't given her a chance.

I think we should choose the candidate that best represents our Conservative values and agenda. If that's Condi Rice, so be it. What they are matters more than who they are to me.
38 posted on 05/31/2005 8:28:41 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Powerclam

aaawwww all right, President Rice. You won me with the "Hillary would have an anuerism" comment. Wait a minute, I think you've come up with a great bumper sticker idea!!!! ;-)


39 posted on 05/31/2005 8:38:51 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: Gipper08

i read up on the views of Mike Pence, he seems to be one that we should keep an eye on. He is truly in the spirit of Ronald Reagan. He wants to fix the tax code, preserve life, and he is very strong on defense. i did have trouble finding his views on illegal immigration though. but he seems very viable and an actual conservative, unlike what weve been told we have to live with. what about Pence/ Condi in '08 and '12 and then Condi in '16 and '20. seems like a plan to me


40 posted on 05/31/2005 8:56:53 PM PDT by curtisgardner
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