Posted on 05/23/2005 5:21:47 PM PDT by Harkonnendog
"Under the agreement, Democrats would pledge not to filibuster any of Bushs future appeals court or Supreme Court nominees except in extraordinary circumstances.
And we can certainly trust that dems will not invoke "extraordinary circumstances" in less than extraordinary circumstances. Right? I mean democrats never exaggerate or use hyperbole, right? Here is Senator Byrd, via Michelle Malkin:
Sen. Byrd: We have kept the Republic. I'm very proud of these colleagues of mine on the Republican side and the Democratic side. We have lifted ourselves above politics and signed this document in the interest of...freedom of speech, etc. Thank God for this moment and for these colleagues of mine.
You kept the Republic!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Great. I thought McCain was busy ending free speech in America.
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Yup, the good old escape clause
Anyone here who believes there won't be "extraordinary circumstances" (WHO gets to decide the circumstances are extraordinary? Answer:The Dems we most dislike!) popping up like empties at the Kennedy compoud, please stand up. I want to point and laugh at you.
Frist didn't have the votes,period.Why didn't we make them hold the floor?
That may be the plan. Give the dems enough rope to hang themselves. at least that was the point of my post (though that point is not reached in the excerpt)
This will all change when Repub's become the majority in the Senate. Wait.......
I think we do have three Republicans in there now.48 to go.
Now this looks to me (a simple man, not a lawyer) that this now put the president in a position to serve not those that elected him, but to consult those whom I didn't first before placing any person up for nomination.
Perhaps someone with greater insight can enlighten me here.
We moved the chains. Three judges get approved, dems must justify future filibusters as "extraordinary" AFTER allowing Owen and Brown a vote, and any repubs who feel the dems are abusing the agreement are free to abandon it. I expect Frist will bring up Myers in due course, and all this back-and-forth will crank up again, with the important difference that Owens, Brown and Pryor will be beyond its reach. Let Ried argue that Myers is worse than Brown and Owen! It seems like a cave at first blush, but the dems are more constrained going forward than the repubs, IMO.
Seriously! How do these people expect to raise money? These judges were the bread and butter of their argument for a Republican Senate. I can't wait for their next request.
(((cringe)))
As long as a TV camera is on, you will ALWAYS hear Boxer.
That's nice, but meaningless--what difference does it make if a few Republicans feel it's being abused?
I get your point about the immediate situation with the judges but we could have had that and more with removing the judicial filibuster.
EXACTLY. The GOP had the votes. PERIOD.
They gave away what they had for the sake of comity with a group of liars who will define "extrodinary circumstances" to mean whatever they want it to.
Unfortunately we had a man wide open in the end zone and we dumped it off for a three yard gain.
If we end the filibuster, almost all Bush's judges would be approved. The Dems would try to halt all business of any kind from getting done and would look like the obstructionists they are. The people would be pissed and the Dems would look like asses and would either lose seats in conservative states, or those Dems would be forced to compromise to save their necks.
Instead, the MSM can paint the Rino's like the moderate wing of the "extreme Republican majority" who sided with the "moderate Senate Dems" (which we know is all of them).
Too bad Cheney wasn't running things when Byrd and Reid started selling their snake oil. They would have got a "f$#k off" in return, which is what Frist should have said.
The Senate needs a Delay type leader.
3? Really?
Name them and don't include Pryor.
This is more of another case of the pubbies snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Dems knew that the 'compromise' would bring them closer to what they wanted than an outright defeat. That's why they agreed to this.
None of the GOP Senate deserves to be reelected as far as I am concerned.
I meant three conservative SENATORS total.Coburn,Thomas(Wy),and DeMint.
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