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To: dcwusmc

Would it not be more useful, then, to define yourself as a libertarian? You are certainly correct in saying that "anarchist" has such pejorative connotations, irresistably reminding the listener of anarchy.

I cannot disagree with much of what you say, particularly your feeling that you would be happy if modern government were to be shrunk to the size it was in the late eighteenth century. I only ask that government do for the citizens what they cannot do for themselves. We can build our own roads and even secure our borders, as has been demonstrated in the past few weeks, but building aircraft carriers may be a little beyond our reach.


32 posted on 05/14/2005 5:03:48 PM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: Capriole

bttt


33 posted on 05/14/2005 5:06:33 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Capriole

I am not a Libertarian because I disagree strongly with them on the open borders issue. I believe that there is a Constitutional mandate to protect our borders and many Libertarians believe that it's OK for foreigners to violate them with impunity. My feeling is that it matters not WHERE someone comes from (my wife's an immigrant); it only matters that they follow the rules set up for entry and do NOT try to sneak in, especially with the connivance of their own government, which is an act of war by any standard. I believe that illegal border violations will come to a halt and then become pointless when we STOP handing out goodies such as "citizenship" to anchor babies and welfare, drivers' licenses, favorable college tuition to border jumpers and their illegal offspring, etcetera. After we remove the incentives for the illegality, we can probably remove restrictions on entry, since the sick, lame and lazy won't bother to come here, as there won't be anymore freebies to be had. The ones who DO come here will be the ones who want to PRODUCE and make something of themselves, to build a new life here and ASSIMILATE into our country. The ones we do NOT need are the ones who merely want to send remittances home (milk our economy) and not become AMERICANS. The ones who want to escape the brutality and hardships of their original country, then try to turn OUR country into a duplicate of what they went to some effort to leave. My ancestors have been here since the Pilgrims landed. We became AMERICANS. Anyone else who wants to come here to live is welcome, AS LONG AS they come in the front door, like honest folks have done since doors were invented.


34 posted on 05/14/2005 9:48:53 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Capriole
Would it not be more useful, then, to define yourself as a libertarian

Imagine that... just what I said. I should read the whole thread first I suppose...

41 posted on 05/19/2005 7:24:14 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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