Maybe someone who lives in Washington State can simply go over to Verity Credit Union and purchase a cashiers check for about $20 or so and then post it here. That way we can compare how this cashiers check compares with the two supposedly purchased by Stephenson.
I think it would be more to the point if Mr. Gunderson and Perhaps Mr. Scott Jarvis, Director of State Financial Institutions were allowed more time to reflect on why these two check images, one with Verity's routing number, the other with a routing number to a non-existent bank, both made out to John (sic) Hopkins Hospital, and no record of sale, purchase, or delivery to payee, unless you count "a channelle's" version of events as told to "I-like-good-things too."
These gentlemen will need time to discuss the matter with the payee, i.e., the payee's in-house legal representatives of which there are legion.
They might want to consider the matter of lax security, even the honesty of their staff and managers which I-L has remarked on over many posts as being "conceivably," dubious.
I-L raised the issue of verification. Straight through IL continues to state in dfferent ways, sometimes in responses to posts that don't mention the check, that the checks are authentic, real, "I proved they were genuine. Now you can stop talking about the checks; they're off the table; let's get on to more important things; let's not waste valuable time."
The images of these checks are major. A public display of check images with no bank or credit union name, but only the routing numbers with the mispelled name of an internationally famed research and patient care hospital were used in what might be determined to be the first nation-wide internet scam by conspirators connected to politically oriented internet websites.
Please do not fall asleep- right now. This is tedious, I know. But we are not here to prove that the internet images of check copies are similar to originals. The forensics are not quite that straightforward.
We can be of service to the integrity of other websites by providing information that makes it more difficult for sites to be used as milch cows. Professional investigators use that information to establish probability of malfeasance, if there is any.
The images of the checks, are what's important. It will be important that Johns Hopkins did not receive these checks on the day DUers say they found "certified checks" in the Johns Hopkins mail room. Of course, Johns Hopkins permits clown posses to ransack their mailrooms all the time.
In using these check images on the internet to persuade a restless following that their leaders could be trusted shows an almost brutish indifference to the human dignity of the people they duped.
It also shows what might be considered a psychopathic arrogance to really believe that the rules of decency and fairplay are for suckers.
DU deleted the check images, as well as the Medical report supposedly from Johns Hopkins. They thought they could flash them on the website, then delete them, and nobody would be the wiser; not Verity Credit Union, not Johns Hopkins, one of finest medical centers in the world, which they maligned and slandered as if they were all meeting in a private room where no one but their followers would know.
I asked Franksolich if we could ask the Robinsons not to delete any posts, no matter how furiously the abuse button is punched. DU is deleting like mad; Freepers screensaved a message from Andy saying he had kited a check.
FR members are doing yeoman's work capturing and keeping the fleeting, ever-changing stories that are propping up Andy.
But there are ringers on FR, and the more desperate they get the more combustible the thread gets, but we cannot lose any posts.
Newsguyone was on the previous thread. There were a few things of interest but then everything was deleted. I wish just for these Andy threads that Mr. Robinson would let us keep every post, even the most abusive and snarling, if it is a response to a legitimate question.
Thanks, PJ. Sorry to shoot down your idea. It would be a good one if we were dealing with actual checks. I think the geniuses who thought of putting up the check images were ignorant of the significance of the routing numbers. A Freeper way back in the 400's on this thread researched it.
Brilliantly.
Free Republic has the best researchers anywhere. b
And send that $20.00 cashier's check to me! I am coincidentally only $20.00 from proving massive fraud in the Undie Scam!
Gee, maybe they could, but then maybe everyone one here will inply that they are lying about it (without of course bothering to check themselves by making a friggin phone call).
The credit union opens at 9-- any of you going to give it a try?