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Give Our Hospitals to Illegal Immigrants . . and Be Done With it! -(don't ask, don't tell policy!)
OPINION EDITORIALS.COM ^ | MAY 11, 2005 | KAYE GROGAN

Posted on 05/11/2005 1:23:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: texastoo

Yes, it has occured to me. And, when that happens, even more hospitals will go out of business. I sincerely hope that happens ... because the alternative is that the government will keep them going, and then the government will go out of business. I'm a libertarian, but not an anarchist. I've seen anarchy close up, and it's BAD. One way or the other, once more than a few people (and we're already past that stage) soak up any free service, some part of the system is doomed, and it's only a matter of time before the freebees stop. As above, the only question is how much destruction occurs in the process of stopping the freebees.


81 posted on 05/11/2005 6:42:13 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: texastoo

Oh no, my friend, I'm not just talking about one case, I'm just giving one example of many cases.


82 posted on 05/11/2005 6:43:27 PM PDT by dit_xi (Fingers and tubes in every orifice (tenet of critical care medicine))
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Slippery slope to socialized medicine. Just mark my words.


83 posted on 05/11/2005 6:50:22 PM PDT by dit_xi (Fingers and tubes in every orifice (tenet of critical care medicine))
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To: dit_xi; engrpat
Your posts made since until you said ...and not getting paid Give me a break, you get paid and you know it and I know it.

Up until about 5 years ago the hospitals billed the Canadian government for the snow birds in Texas. Canada put a stop to this and now when one of their citizens have an emergency here in the states, Canada is notified and they send one of their air ambulances to transport the patient back to Canada for further treatment.

This is what I wrote our Texas senators about. Neither one would answer me.

84 posted on 05/11/2005 6:57:55 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

It really hurts me to think that we are letting the illegals drive us into socialized medicine. But that is where we are headed. Down here in the South Texas valley, the government pay over 75% of all the health care. When this happens to the rest of the country, the greatest medical system the world has ever known will be destroyed.


85 posted on 05/11/2005 7:04:57 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: engrpat
I have written to my two senators (Texas) one won't even answer and the other is the point man for Bush and his "it ain't really amnesty amnesty" legislation.

Yep, same here in Arizona for Congressmen. RINO Jim Kolbe being the point man... McCain and Kyl don't even bother responding.

86 posted on 05/11/2005 7:16:15 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: texastoo
Give me a break, you get paid and you know it and I know it.

Hey, if you can show me how I can get paid for taking care of illegals and homeless folks, I'd gladly share some of that money with you. Unlike hospital based physicians (ER docs, radiologists, anesthesiologists, pathologists, etc..) who gets subsidized fundings from the hospital they work at when their billing collections fall below breaking point, us independent grunts do not. We call it charitable work. We take unattached ER calls because we are not afraid of plaintiff attorneys. We take unattached ER calls because it is always a privilege to care for the sick, and because it is the right thing to do. Not all of us are in it for the money. Sure we make a decent living, and I'm not one to complain on how much I make. The reality of the situation is that in my practice, my reimbursement rate is ~40%. Imagine a business where only 4 out of 10 customers will pay you for your service/products.

87 posted on 05/11/2005 7:26:46 PM PDT by dit_xi (Fingers and tubes in every orifice (tenet of critical care medicine))
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To: texastoo
I think you are mistaken...I did not say anything about... and not getting paid...my posting was about the republicans in congress don't feel they need to listen to the grass roots because we have no where else to go.
88 posted on 05/11/2005 8:14:20 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: engrpat

Sorry, my post to you was misleading. I was posting that about not getting paid to another poster.

The part I was posting to you was about Canadians coming to south Texas in the winter and getting sick. The Canadian government pays their bills or flies them back to Canada. I wrote this scenario to Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutcheson asking why Mexico couldn't do the same. I didn't get an answer from either one of them.


89 posted on 05/11/2005 8:47:02 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: dit_xi
Hey, if you can show me how I can get paid for taking care of illegals and homeless folks, I'd gladly share some of that money with you.

Look in the want ads. These hospitals are full of illegals and homeless down here. There is a high demand for licensed, experienced medical personel all over the US.

We take unattached ER calls because we are not afraid of plaintiff attorneys.

Big deal. Every patient a hospital admits is a potential plaintiff and hospitals can't turn anyone away.

90 posted on 05/11/2005 9:15:44 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Happy2BMe

I rarely see an "immigrant" woman WITHOUT a baby carriage. Lately, I've seen a TON of the double baby buggies. Also, in the local police report last week, a woman reported her neighbor's plants (outdoor) being stolen and carted off in a baby carriage by a woman with two children. The loss was reported at $400.


92 posted on 05/11/2005 9:49:23 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: lilylangtree
Just get your hands on one of those Matricula Consular ID cards, put your picture on it like how many millions of illegals already do and brush up on your conversational Spanish and wahla, FREE medical care. </anger>
93 posted on 05/12/2005 2:14:49 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: Chaos
Just include the Drivers license places to. I went yesterday to get motorcycle added to my drivers license and had to wait 3 hours for an eye test. I completed the Motorcycle safety course over the weekend and only needed the eye test. "Almost" everyone in there was speaking something besides ENGLISH! Most were speaking Spanish.

I can identify with your experience. About 2 months ago I dropped in to my area DL office to inquire about a change of address for my DL since I had moved since obtaining my license. I had to wait quite awhile just to ask the question. I counted 41 people in the waiting area and all but 3 appeared to be of a race other than American. Spanish was the prevailing language spoken that day. I even observed that a Texas DPS trooper was being used as an interpreter for the employee taking questions and dispensing directions and info.

I wonder, if these folks can't speak the language when will the government be changing all our road signs so that these invaders can read them in their native language('s)?! I don't hold out much hope for our nation as once the greatest nation in modern times as I see it quickly devolving into a third world nation right before my own eyes!

94 posted on 05/12/2005 2:32:26 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: CHARLITE

Only in America!


95 posted on 05/12/2005 3:30:15 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Happy2BMe


What an eye opener.It is time for some laws to be changed in this country.There are many citizens of this country that cannot afford health care and to just give it away to illegals is an out rage..It is time we took our country back from the illegals.


96 posted on 05/12/2005 3:38:23 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Beth528
What an eye opener.It is time for some laws to be changed in this country. .....

Our current laws aren't being enforced as it is so do you honestly think NEW laws will do much good? I contend that we need to at least change the Congress-critters themselves (in-mass if necessary) instead and until the laws already on the books are enforced.

97 posted on 05/12/2005 4:45:12 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: Ron H.

Yes you are right Ron we should enforce the laws we have now.I get angry when I read these articles so wasn't thinking when I posted.


98 posted on 05/12/2005 5:01:38 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: texastoo
No problem. I agree that Mexico can an should pay for the medical care for its people in the US. Mexico won't as long as it feels that it has the upper hand in the immigration battle. The letter I got back from Cornyn was the priceless "Texas Two Step" who ever wrote it should be writing movie or TV shows.
99 posted on 05/12/2005 5:13:57 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: Beth528
I should have appended my post with a disclaimer: IMHO that is. I'm just so danged ticked off over this ongoing madness!

Like you and others I tend to get a bit angry with my government regarding them giving away my hard earned tax dollars so willy-nilly and then expect me and you to either like it or lump it! As Eddie Chiles once said "I'm mad as hell and I ain't going to take it anymore!"

100 posted on 05/12/2005 5:46:23 AM PDT by Ron H.
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