Terri Schiavo and our Moral Confusion

MARS HILL AUDIO Journal ^ | April 01, 2005 | Ken Myer

[Magilla]

Terri's parents didn't testify. Only Terri's mother testified. AND, she recanted her testimony, admitting that Terri had to have been only 11 years old when she made her statement.[[[

no---it was Judge Greer who dismissed any testimony regarding Terri's statements because HE concluded and said that she could only have been 11 at the time.

Not the mother.

[Old anti feminist]

I shouldn't even answer to a left wing nut, but you have ignored so much, it is beyond discussing. The truth will come out in the civil suit.

[Magilla]

Terri was not allowed to die, she was forced to die and (regardless of what a person 'right to life' or 'right to death' beliefs are) THAT should be absolutely, unequivocally unacceptable![[[

Amen!

[Magilla]

I've been to Clearwater.

You're right about the Scientology.

Too bad more people don't know about it because if they did they would look at the whole Schindler vs. Schiavo debacle in a different light.

They were truly outnumbered.

[Magilla]

I think Paulson was referring to Tacomonkey.

[winstonchurchill]

I applaud you both for trying to share facts with the assembled multitude here. As you can see from the tenor of the 'responses' reason is in short supply on the 'physical life at all costs' front.

[mlc9852]

And is it your legal opinion that her "husband's" statement seven years after her collapse was that she wouldn't want to receive food and water through a feeding tube? Did Terri indeed wish to be starved and dehydrated to death? Do you really believe that was "clear and convincing evidence" under Florida law?

[mlc9852]

Do you mean any deviation from the truth?

[mlc9852]

And how to do you feel about partial-birth abortion? People who think like you truly scare me. I hope you have no ambitions to become a judge.

[backtalk2000]

How easily people can be brainwashed. Did you use terms like "artificial means" to describe nutrition and hydration before the MSM began reporting on the Terri Shiavo case? Were you overtly concerned about an individual's "expressed will to die", and championing those causes before you learned about Terri Shiavo? I doubt it.

[Tailgunner Joe]

They haven't shared any facts or reason at all, they've simply dismissed facts they don't want to recognize with a wave of their hand and condescending insults, just like you.

[supercat]

I read Judge Greer's court order dated February, 2000. He had "clear and convincing" evidence as to her wishes as required by Florida law.

How many legs would a normal horse have, if Judge Greer called a tail a leg?

[robertpaulsen]

In Judge Greer's February, 2000 court order (to remove the feeding tube), he states that the mother admitted she was incorrect.

Do you have a copy of that handy? Or will you just believe me?

[robertpaulsen]

Judge Greer found "clear and convincing" evidence that Terri would not want to live the way she was living, and ordered the feeding tube removed.

"Did Terri indeed wish to be starved and dehydrated to death?

How does your Living Will read? Does it go into that kind of detail? Does it say that you do not want to kept in that brain damaged state unless there's a feeding tube -- and in that case you want to be kept alive forever?

Give me a break, Mr. All-Knowing 20-20 fricken hindsight.

[robertpaulsen]

I suppose you have a better way to resolve the case? Care to share with the class?

Or do you restrict yourself to simply poking fun at other's attempts to resolve the issue?

[humblegunner]

She was healthy!

Alllllrighty then.

[RightWhale]

Paragraph abuse is immoral.

[RightWhale]

the Western tradition of conferring dignity and respect

What are these things? What is dignity? What is respect? Is it something that can be given to somebody else?

[robertpaulsen]

Personally, I thought the Terri Schiavo issue was a euthanasia case. Then I got into it and found it wasn't so.

What bothered me the most was the inexcusable ignorance of the FReepers supporting Terri's "right to live". You one of those?

[mlc9852]

Actually, I would be Mrs. 20-20 hindsight. But regarding my Living Will, I don't have one. The reason I don't have one is because I WANT to be kept alive. I don't want to have the plug pulled. Bottom line - I prefer to err on the side of life, just as the president and pope said.