Posted on 04/01/2005 5:15:09 PM PST by CHARLITE
"Today I am ashamed to be called an American
"
No, it just happened here. And it was lowlife, subhuman, liberal-progressive-demokkkRAT-commie-nazi-fascist garbage, hate-America, left-wing wacko filth, who did it. Conservatives were totally outgunned; we know who the enemy really is, now, C.
(((:::adjusting sights:::)))
"...and I am ashamed of the human race."
Refer to my previous answer.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
(((:::BOOM:::)))
We can't unring the bell. The horse is out of the barn. The milk is spilt. Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall.
Et cetera, et cetera.
An abomination has been done in the US of A. An abomination of desolation. All those of us who wanted and tried to stop it can only duck and cover, tuck and roll. The die is cast, the stage is set, the curtain opens. This country, this government, have been weighed in the balance and found wanting. Woe is us.
bttt
The only way I could think of to make a statement and "say" anything about how disappointed I am in the Republican party and their complete lack of action was to call and have my name removed from their list. I am now officially listed as an Independant.
Maybe if enough Dems and Republicans are disgusted enough to make a change it might wake them up. Maybe.......
I'm thinking about a change in registration, too, PR.
Excerpt
"My only question for Michael Schiavo is: Why insist on retaining the power to kill your wife while morally compromised by your desire to remarry and your position as heir to the remainder of her $1.2 million malpractice judgment? Why not simply divorce her? But I would fear to live in a society that sets the procedural and evidentiary bar so low for the termination of life as the state of Florida has done in the case of Terry Schiavo. And I'm proud to live in a religious Jewish society in which Yacov Tabak's efforts on behalf of his beloved wife are the societal ideal.
Only a society that still believes in the human soul, in something ineffable that cannot be expressed in terms of EEG's, can produce a Yacov Tabak, or for that matter a JewishWorldReview.com's Marianne Jennings, professor of Legal and Ethical Studies at Arizona State University, who has lived for more than a decade with a daughter who depends on a feeding tube and who now has a mother in the same state. "Eliminating them," she writes here, "would mean no more diaper changes, no more feeding bags, and no more '1-2-3 lift!' as we struggle to rotate their positions. But if I lost my Claire or my mother, I would spend a lifetime longing to be of service again, to have just one more time to feel the warmth of those neurologically curled fingers."
And a society which defines life only in terms of the capacity to experience a certain set of pleasures is on the road towards elimination of those who lack a certain societally determined "quality of life." Indeed the killing by starvation of a sentient, responsive woman, who requires no more life support than an infant, is already well down the road.
I thought about it last night and DID it today. If enough people make the change in the next week or so, maybe it will make both parties take a look and realize they royally screwed up.
All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty ... No person shall be deprived of any right because of ... physical disability.
Jeb Bush had all the authority he needed to remove Terri from those who would kill her and save her life. Indeed, his oath of office requires it :
I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect and defend the Constitution and government of the United States and of the state of Florida ...
I wonder what Terri Schindler Schiavo got for her loss of consortion?
The only answer I can come up with is state sactioned torturous murder.
I can't stomach witnessing my fellow Democrats being so NON-Democratic. Sticking up for a man doing such horrible things to a disabled woman and her family is NOT Democratic. The patriarchal attitude that a man should be able to decide whether a woman lives or dies is NOT a feminist attitude.
And that's why this article inspired me to create an account here. These words ring so very true: "Where were the human rights organizations? Where were the women’s rights organizations?" I would add, where are the disabled people's rights organizations? Is Ralph Nader the only man among us, who cares about the rights of a profoundly disabled person?
Though I support a person's wishes IF they wish to die, I don't support death being enforced upon a patient. I believe that each American's right to make his/her own decisions should be protected, NOT put into the hands of a judge or a spouse who wishes to dispose of you.
In all fairness, there are a lot of us Democrats who are completely appalled by this...even though a lot of Democrats have also been taken in by Michael Schiavo's B.S. The judge who mandated this is, IIRC, a Conservative...even though a lot of Conservatives are outraged by his actions.
In other words, there are people on both sides of the aisle who are guilty, and that's why we need people on both sides of the aisle to fight together, toward making sure this never happens to anyone again.
I'm in the process of doing the same thing, registering as an Independent. The cowardice on the part of both parties was truly contemptible.
Then... you're the first one I've ever met, k.
Still skeptical you're not a troll.
Feh.
This is sad and shameful that neither the Executive branch nor the governor of Florida, both members of the party in favor of life, would take direct action on this matter. You're right, we feed and shelter terrorists, but won't save Terri.
With the tacit approval of all three branches of the federal government and the government of the state of florida.
We just lost the torch.
I spent the last two weeks physically sick and crying my eyes out over Terri. This wasn't just compassionate grief either, it was something much, much deeper than that. It was a grieving in my spirit. (And, for the record, I am no crybaby.)
I couldn't shake this very strong impression that this was a test directly from God, and that it was our final test... and we failed. I thought I was the only one who felt this way, until I began surfing around the net and saw that many others got the same impression. A number of people, even non-religious ones, said they were overwhelmed with grief and dread beyond anything they'd ever experienced before. They firmly believe that America's fate and Terri's fate were somehow linked, and that the moment she passed away God pulled the plug on us and will now allow America to slowly & painfully waste away and die too.
Some Christians are saying "because America's so in love with death, now death is what God will give us". They also say that since we judged by the law with no mercy, our nation is no longer under grace, and from now on God will judge America by His Law with no mercy.
I know there are also people who think this kind of talk is hysterical nonsense. They say, "Get a grip. She wasn't Jesus Christ or the Pope or Christopher Reeves or anyone who really mattered." But, Terri did matter. She mattered very much to God. And, I really do believe that what happened to her was the last and final straw that made God finally wash His hands of America, just like all those who played Pontius Pilot here tried to wash their hands of Terri.
I don't think it was any accident that this occurred during Easter. I don't think it's any accident that the Pope was placed on a feeding tube at this particular time. I don't think it's any accident that Terri's plight received so much news coverage that you'd have to be living in a cave not to be aware of it. This was a loud and clear, in-our-face, test with our very survival as a nation hanging in the balance, IMHO.
I also think Satan was well aware of the stakes and did everything he could to end her life. The forces aligned against Terri were unbelievably powerful. And, American Christians were not in any way prepared to do battle; the "Church of Laodicea" got thrown around like a rag doll and stomped.
Like many others I'm not only angry with Michael Schiavo, Felos, Greer, the Dems, the euthanasia proponents, and the police who spent two weeks playing concentration camp guard, I'm also very angry with the Bush brothers, Congress, the higher courts, the media, and my apathetic fellow Americans who didn't even bother to investigate the facts.
In fact, I'm actually more angry with those who should've known better, than I am with "the usual suspects".
I believe you kaos. My Dad who is a Democrat feels the same way you do.
Quite frankly, there were a lot of conservatives along the way who failed Terri. Judge Greer, by all accounts "conservative". Judge Birch. Congress and to a certain extent, Jeb Bush.
The problem is, are the Democrats who are outraged by this murder going to speak up? Is Ralph Nader going to pursue this as passionately as protecting the environment? Is Jesse Jackson going to stick around the way he would if she were black? Are the disabled groups going to make this their cause celebre, or are they going to go back to persecuting small town bars that don't have handicapped parking?
I know the pro-lifers and other conservatives are going to stay on this. But who is going to cross the party lines?
"have my name removed from their list. I am now officially listed as an Independant.
Beat you to it--by about 30 years. But of course, I don't know how old you are.
When we "bugged out" of Vietnam and that spineless (President) Ford refused to help our Vietnam allies (as he was obligated to do according to the Peace Accords) and the North (Vietnamese) overran the South, leading (directly and indirectly, when once includes the genocide that took place in Cambodia) to the imprisonment, torture, wholesale slaughter, etc, of over a million people) I tore up (symbolically) my "R" card and have since then, been an I.
I spent 18 months there in Military Intelligence, and counted as "friends and acquaintances" many, many Vietnamese. I'll never know what happened to them--although, as they were working with ("cooperating," don't you know) us, I fear, the worst.
The "R's" caved to political pressure from the MSM, Anti-War Movement, (including and in no small part to that Traitor, Kerry), Libs, etc. and that was the "birth" of the Modern Liberal Movement and their power trip, until Newt came along.
Nevertheless, in spite of (after 40 years of wandering in the desert) "we" finally got control of both Senate/House and Pres., many, if not most, "R's" continue to act as if they were still in the minority and at the first sign of demagoguery from the MSM and libs, they run and cower under their beds.
That is not to mean that they should exert their power as the Dims did and simply steamroll any opposition or act in an arrogant fashion, but, they need to begin to reflect the will of the people (who they claim to represent) and ignore the "nattering nabobs of negativism."
While it is true that there are a "few" conservative Dims (Lieberman to a degree and Zeller, for sure) it appears that there are a lot more "mods" and downright libs in the Republican Party: Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Chris Shays, and yes, most of the time, John McCain, to name a few).
I experienced this first-hand, living in Vermont and having as our delegation, not only Pat Leahy (whose voting records is most of the time, as bad or worst than, Kennedys) and the only avowed Socialist in Congress, Bernie Sanders, but the "Piece de Résistance," jump in Jim Jeffords.
That is why I am, first and foremost, an American; a patriot; and last but not least, a conservative.
If there were more conservatives who refused to be labeled either/or, it would give pause for thought in both parties and might, require "them" to approach an issue (such as we saw over the past few weeks in Pinellas Park) based upon what is "right and wrong," as opposed to putting their fingers to the wind (i.e., polls) and acting in a manner designed simply to affect the possibility of their continued reelection.
Sadly, my Mom passed away in January. Additionally, I had to make an "efforts to revive" decision, and thus the Terri situation hit close to home and though I did not know how I would manage financially, (nursing home: $3,000/mo.) and though my Mother was going on 93, I chose "life." Unfortunately, due to complications from her stroke, she did not survive but 3 weeks.
Thus, as I no longer have any duty or obligation to remain in this bastion of liberalism (I would count VT in the top 10 most liberal states) as has been the case for the past 15 years, I will soon pack and move elsewhere; somewhere in the South, I think--but NOT, Florida, although, I believe in my heart of hearts, there are some good conservatives there as well. LOL.
Peace and God Bless all Conservatives.
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