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(Vanity) TERRI,COME FORTH!
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Posted on 03/30/2005 6:38:16 AM PST by Kings18-37

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Good save your soul Chris Hitchens
1 posted on 03/30/2005 6:38:16 AM PST by Kings18-37
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To: Kings18-37

They just anounced that Terri's parents have won a new hearing. Her tube should be back in shortly. The rest of Terri is already in heaven however, has been for over a decade.


2 posted on 03/30/2005 6:44:40 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Source isnt bible.org and shouldnt be attributed to it.

The source is a personal website which needs help, IMO.
http://home.att.net/~the_bible_only/


3 posted on 03/30/2005 6:46:14 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Nuzcruizer
The rest of Terri? Did she send a pepperoni pizza on ahead?
4 posted on 03/30/2005 6:47:08 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Kings18-37

"Good save your soul Chris Hitchens"

Are you gonna shoot him?


5 posted on 03/30/2005 6:47:31 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Nuzcruizer

This is the video that should be shown on the news everynight - it is even more powerful than the balloon video.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/ccb/videos/Terri_Big_Eyes.rm

This is not reflex action - she heard the doctor, she opened her eyes as wide as she could to impress him.

Even Fox news has ignored this clip.


6 posted on 03/30/2005 6:50:59 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
The rest of Terri is already in heaven however, has been for over a decade.

Now just how do you know that? Is there someplace in the Bible that says if you can't communicate with those around you are dead?

Besides, get a load of this (and please post your regrets):

Here is a seldom seen video showing she can function

This is the video that should be shown on the news everynight - it is even more powerful than the balloon video.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/ccb/videos/Terri_Big_Eyes.rm

This is not reflex action - she heard the doctor, she opened her eyes as wide as she could to impress him.

Even Fox news has ignored this clip.

7 posted on 03/30/2005 6:55:17 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: Kings18-37

Who is Chris Hitchens?


8 posted on 03/30/2005 7:02:32 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Member of the Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: grassboots.org
FNC is rapidly losing credibility in some areas.
My wife just told me that E.D. Hill was ranting and raving on the air this morning to a black dem congress person from Fla. who had been called by Jesse Jackson and was considering changing his vote. She encouraged him "not" to.

I always knew e.d. was rather dumb, but I hand no ideas of the depths. She is a disgrace to anyone who has ever been a morning show broadcaster or tried to pass themselves off as semi-journalists.

FNC has at least a half dozen other anchorettes who could do a far better job than E.D. Why don't they put her on with BOR so they can both make fools out of themselves while we listen to Rush.
9 posted on 03/30/2005 7:02:41 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: grassboots.org

Get serious. That is nothing but reflex action. People with NO BRAIN cannot respond. If I stand next to her long enough sooner or later a reflex action will occur and appear to happen to my command.
My god people are so gulable. Hook up the probes that are still in her head and take a look and the solid green line.
Look at the cat scan that shows her brain a sack of fluid.
She only has brain stem auto reflex function. Nothing more.

I hope her parents get that tube back in soon and they get a whole new batch of tests done. But like all other tests, they won't believe them.

It's fine to have hope, but she's beyond hope. Her parents just can't let go. So let them keep her body alive until they can accept it. No harm in that. Her body is actualy relativly healthy, it's just missing the hard drive.
She isn't "aware", because She isn't there.


10 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:04 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

"Are you going to shoot him."

Nope, "thou shall not kill". I'm juts saying he's doing a pretty good job of shooting himself, in this insurance.

And since I assume you agree, thou shall not kill, please join the bipartisan Mercy Coalition and stop killing a person by depriving her of food and drink.

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! Churchill


11 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:57 AM PST by Kings18-37
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To: Kings18-37
Jesus showed us how God looks at human death.

John 11:1-44 (New International Version)

When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.

“Where have you laid him?” he asked.

   “Come and see, Lord,” they replied.

Jesus wept.

Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!”


12 posted on 03/30/2005 7:16:33 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: grassboots.org
" Now just how do you know that?"

Because I have seen it a thousand times. Listen to yourself, Your saying that she opened her eyes to inpress him. Your saying that although the part of her brain which expresses emotion and forms thought patterns is funtioning when it's not even there. Not only did she have a mere response you say, but she had a measured, thought out response. Sheesh! If she dies, her husband has won his court case to have an autopsy. I guess that's what's needed to put an end to this "Star weekly" type of gossip.

13 posted on 03/30/2005 7:18:44 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: grassboots.org

You know, it is possible for people to live with only half of their brain. But in order to live, the remaining half has to be fully funtional. In Terri's case, her remaining part of the brain is completely dead. Not a spark.
The brain has been well mapped in the last 20 years, If I could remember the famous Dr.s name who pioneered it I's tell you. but I can't recall it off hand.
This is what led to successfull cures for people who suffered from seizures, the part of the brain that was malfuntioning would be removed, and the person would be cured. They would loose some memory, or in cases some body funtion, but often things were relearned.

I know people have hope for Terri, and it's sad that her brain died. But that's just how life is sometimes.
She still has those probes in her (remaining part of)brain.
plus there are other methods to detect brain activity. Sadly for her, there isn't any. It is impossible for her to have a controlled reasoned response without brainwave activity.
There comes a time when you must apply fact to these claims.


14 posted on 03/30/2005 7:30:57 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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As long as our focus on Terri does not detract from the medical resources available to all others in need I don't see why she should not be preserved. We have more than enough food and medicine to aid all 6,000,000,000+ people a dozen times over if we learn to harmonize our souls with others and achieve maximum awareness of self and others. However, if this focus on her plight draws our attention away from the plight of nearly a billion starving able minded people we must reconsider our actions. We must not let this rescue mission become a popular fad intended to demonstrate our political "christiandom", this would be banal and immoral in every concievable way. Although I am a firm believer in Christ ( FAQ: I have read the bible 8 times over in 16 different languages and compared it with nearly every other masterpiece yet known) I still believe that the symbolic representation of suffering and redemption cannot take precedent to our fight against evil and the lack of self-awareness (the inner-death as described in the parable of Lazarus). You would be correct in stating that the lesson of Terri Schiavo is not complete.

P.S. Protest and free T-Shirts will have no effect on the debate. We need reasons not politics folks.


15 posted on 03/30/2005 7:32:25 AM PST by Gava
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As long as our focus on Terri does not detract from the medical resources available to all others in need I don't see why she should not be preserved. We have more than enough food and medicine to aid all 6,000,000,000+ people a dozen times over if we learn to harmonize our souls with others and achieve maximum awareness of self and others. However, if this focus on her plight draws our attention away from the plight of nearly a billion starving able minded people we must reconsider our actions. We must not let this rescue mission become a popular fad intended to demonstrate our political "christiandom", this would be banal and immoral in every concievable way. Although I am a firm believer in Christ ( FAQ: I have read the bible 8 times over in 16 different languages and compared it with nearly every other masterpiece yet known) I still believe that the symbolic representation of suffering and redemption cannot take precedent to our fight against evil and the lack of self-awareness (the inner-death as described in the parable of Lazarus). You would be correct in stating that the lesson of Terri Schiavo is not complete.

P.S. Protest and free T-Shirts will have no effect on the debate. We need reasons not politics folks.


16 posted on 03/30/2005 7:34:30 AM PST by Gava
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

"No flesh shall enter heaven"

So she didn't order a pepperoni pizza. Her spirit has moved on long ago. People just can't accept that.
Even if her body was kept alive for another 15 years, she isn't going to grow a new brain and nerve connections. Maybe in another hundred years we'll know how to transpant or graft new brain cells, but even then, She'd become a completely new person with a new personality. she wouln't have memory of her former life. But that is still science fiction today.


17 posted on 03/30/2005 7:47:23 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: PatriotGirl827

Very intelligent writer- Sometimes on the conservative side, i.e. Iraq; but basicaly a socialist. See his article today- "Easter Charade: There's no resurrecting Terri Schiavo" under the Schiavo Posts.

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! CHIRCHILL





18 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:09 AM PST by Kings18-37
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To: Nuzcruizer

You have a case of what is called stubborn blindness - you see what you want to see - you want her dead and ignoring the video allows you to continue to hold your view.


19 posted on 03/30/2005 7:51:57 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: Gava

That's along my thoughts as well, I don't see the harm in leaving her body live either, it provides some hope for her parents.

There is another school of thought however. It could be that her soul is being held in limbo if we go along with the thinking that our "soul" is connected to the energy of every cell in our bodies. ( more of a Jewish belief ) St Augustine of Hippo has long debate on the issue, and concludes otherwize.


20 posted on 03/30/2005 7:56:20 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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