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Inside Story on Schiavo Case
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Posted on 03/26/2005 5:44:58 PM PST by hipaatwo

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To: hipaatwo

I bet Felos was looking for a Michael Schiavo to appear on the scene. I bet he would have taken the case pro bono. Have you read the threads exposing Felos' connection with the Florida Hospice and several lobbying groups who 'helped' legislators write new law specifically about patients with feeding tubes.

It is all too cosy for me. I do not believe that Michael Schiavo is the big gun in this, even if Felos, et al, let him think he is. They are playing him for their ends, which is not to have hospices "cluttered up" with patients such as Terri.


41 posted on 03/26/2005 7:04:02 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: Servant of the 9

I agree with you about the overreach, the right to privacy and interference. The problem here is that the presumption of life is constitutional in the US--until now. This is the quintessential right to kill case, and abandons the spirit of all that has been America. I believe this case is a direct challenge to the Constitution in its intent, making the enforcer of our laws the murderer.


42 posted on 03/26/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: silverleaf
Felos strikes me as one of those lawyers who revels in the joy of winning at any cost.

He's affiliated with the ACLU. I think that says it all.

43 posted on 03/26/2005 7:06:27 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Servant of the 9

You say Greer followed the law, but suppose that all evidence supporting the Schindler's position was deemed "inadmissable." That is what I am getting from the stuff being said now.


44 posted on 03/26/2005 7:06:54 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: cajungirl
I wonder if the Schindlers would have had any help if they had gone to the "report them to the regulators" route. For instance, Terri was in a hospice against all hospice policy. The feds are very strict about this, could they have reported this as a medicare fraud. Certainly she was on SS disability and got medicare.

And the medicaid route, she had a trust that they set up to get medicaid against the spirit of that law. Could they have done anything about that.

And the nursing home board, surely they are regulated. The lack of care, the inappropriate hospice care, could they have approached it that way.

The hospice is already in trouble with MEdicare to the tune of $15million for patients who were billed as terminal who were not terminal.

Judge Greer has given MS a pass for the past 4 years or so on filling out the required paperwork for Medi-Caid re: her condition -- also illegal and this time allowed by "the court" ...

whatever anyone thinks about right-to-die this thing stinks to high heaven and needs someone like -- Don't shoot the messenger now -- "Elliot Spitzer" who has the ba!!$ to investigate...

45 posted on 03/26/2005 7:11:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: cajungirl

I do think that people in a pvs or mcs who don't have a living will should not have feeding tubes withdrawn or catheters, or basic care.

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Do you know that Felos and friends got the law in Florida changed so that feeding tubes could be removed without an advanced directive, after Felos met Michael Schiavo.

They have been using him and Terri for their aims ever since.

I doubt that MS could have withstood the pressure from his in-laws all these years without the support of the right to die crowd.


46 posted on 03/26/2005 7:14:24 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: cajungirl

This is about more than an "overworked" judge. I think there is something smelly in this matter.


47 posted on 03/26/2005 7:14:27 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: silverleaf

It's almost as if Felos had sized up Michael Schiavo (naive, lower middle class, extremely controlling, arrogant, greedy, narcissistic, selfish, a wad of cash in his pocket and a lot more to come, and possibly guilty of malfeasance aginst his wife) and chosen Terri Schiavo as the case he woould use to outgame the system and advance his personal passion for the "right to death" to a new plane.


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This is exactly what I think also.

I wondered until this week how Michael could have had so much 'power' both to be calling the shots in the Hospice - most institutions have a line across which the patients family's do not cross - and in the explanation for why she was allowed to stay there for five years = against all medicare/medicaid regulations.

Oh, this was a test case all right.

They must have been furious when the Florida legislature wrote "Terri's Law" 2 years ago.


48 posted on 03/26/2005 7:19:45 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: Congressman Billybob
The power was there. The judges chose not to use it. Terri Schiavo will now die, due to the faults of others.

That's what puzzles me CB, why?

49 posted on 03/26/2005 7:21:37 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: maica

Hopefully there will be an investigation as a result of all this. I wondered for a while why no good federal lawyers stepped forward to help in this matter, but I have a feeling that when Randall Terry got involved a lot of them decided to pass. Just way to dangerous for them.


50 posted on 03/26/2005 7:26:56 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: maica
Have you read the threads exposing Felos' connection with the Florida Hospice and several lobbying groups who 'helped' legislators write new law specifically about patients with feeding tubes.

Have you seen the excerpts from the book written by Felos?

In Felos' own words, he has a "fascination with death and dying."

He also wrote that he thinks he willed a plane to almost crash because, again, in his own words, "I wonder what it would be like to die right now” so he “indulged the thought by imagining the plane starting to lose it trajectory and descend.” He claims in the book that at that point the plane did just that, and was later righted.

The man is a total nut job.

The excerpts can be found here: http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/1782.article

51 posted on 03/26/2005 7:31:10 PM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: maica
Do you know that Felos and friends got the law in Florida changed so that feeding tubes could be removed without an advanced directive, after Felos met Michael Schiavo.

Oh my gosh! One of the MS supporters who was being interviewed on TV earlier made a snide comment, basically blaming the Shindlers for Terri's predicament because they chose to live in Florida.

52 posted on 03/26/2005 7:35:26 PM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: alnick

I'm not surprised!


I watched the Fox show that reviews media coverage of the week's news, and even that was chilling. The two libs were so unsympathetic to anyone wishing Terri to live. They were insulting to people or even articles that they deemed sympathetic to her. It was a small window into the mind of these coldhearted libs that made my stomach turn.


53 posted on 03/26/2005 7:44:08 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: alnick

The man is a total nut job.

-----an evil nut job!


54 posted on 03/26/2005 7:47:11 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: hipaatwo

I disagree since your analysis does nor explain Greer'continued and persistent refusal to accept new evidence.Nor does it explain the inhumanity or most of his orders regarding care for Terri or visitation rights.
Greer was a lot more then an overworked judge.He was a willing and active participant in making Schiavo the test case for ending life by withdrawing food and water even in cases without written instructions.


55 posted on 03/26/2005 7:59:26 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: cajungirl

Bingo...the industry of death.Why do you think it happened in Florida where they have been muddying all their end of life definitions.
Their Guardian ad litem system is also completely corrupt and is under investigation.It was on another thread.
I think empirejournal.com has it too.


56 posted on 03/26/2005 8:07:38 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Schwarzeneger

I agree this became for all the judges a turf battle and the courts were not going to let either the executive side as Jbushh intervene or the legislative branch intervene
Congress Act was ignored.
These judges all had remedies including SCOTUS but they failed to use them,becase this was a show down .


57 posted on 03/26/2005 8:13:32 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: watchdog_writer

First time i"ve heard that mentionned,excellent idea.
Other idea,some judges especially at appellate level should be other then lawyers,to avoid over legalistic rulings.


58 posted on 03/26/2005 8:16:55 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: maica

I watched the Fox show that reviews media coverage of the week's news, and even that was chilling. The two libs were so unsympathetic to anyone wishing Terri to live.




I saw Lanny Davis tonight on Fox twice and he sided with the Schindlers. He's about as lib as you can get. He said Michael has questionable motives. 1-why did it take 7 years for him to remember her wishes 2-why is he refusing to let her have communion 3-why have her medical records been sealed and not released as to why she became this way to begin with. I was shocked to say the least.


59 posted on 03/26/2005 8:17:11 PM PST by hipaatwo (Starve Mumia!)
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To: hipaatwo

I also saw Lanny Davis this week siding with the Schindlers. He must have a soul.

Is your screen name from the great new rules regarding patient information? I'm sure the FL lawyers have used the HIPAA regs as clubs in their manipulation of Terri's case.

People scream about the dangers of the Patriot Act, and yet have no idea how many other ways their lives are being manipulated by government.


60 posted on 03/26/2005 8:26:57 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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