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The Government Wants Us to Believe Our Border Issues aren’t Out of Control?
The Reality Check.org ^ | 03/24/2005 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:33:06 PM PST by Marine Inspector

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To: Marine Inspector

Yar! If there's an issue that will hurt us in 2006 it's immigration, and Bush is totally fumbling it.


21 posted on 03/24/2005 7:43:52 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: B4Ranch

:-)


22 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:15 PM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: spodefly

Here's what I have to say about Bush's "vigilante" comment...

When the President of the United States calls American Patriots "vigilantes" before the fact, and in front of a head of state and the world, it is a green light to kill them.

This issue will not go away, and I predict government-initiated violence which will be the beginning of the Second American Revolution (predict Revolution, not advocate, for all you baiters and thread assassins).


23 posted on 03/24/2005 7:54:09 PM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: HiJinx
The Government Wants Us to Believe Our Border Issues aren’t Out of Control?

(ONE) of the biggest lies of the Bush administration.

I won't send any more donations to the RNC or any open borders Republican politician, I'll give it to the Constitution Party instead. I'm sick of paying the bills for illegal aliens.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 7:56:00 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Marine Inspector

To make sure that the illegals have free run of the country he put La Raza in charge of the Justice Dept!


25 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:24 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Mr. Mojo
"But that was all the excuse they needed, apparently."

The transparency for me is that there are people who are here with the sole purpose of killing a thread. Every time a thread like that gets some wheels they jump in and start a stupid fight or change the subject on some emotional point that is irrelevant. Some take the bait and WHAM !

Most of use can see it right from the start. There was some self moderation but it was not enough.

26 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:09 PM PST by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: sarah_f
When the President of the United States calls American Patriots "vigilantes" before the fact, and in front of a head of state and the world, it is a green light to kill them.

As this article mentions, they (the Minutemen) are already under direct physical threats from the Mexican gangs, La Voz de Aztlan (but I repeat myself) and other pro-illegal alien industry types, and have received the typical bureaucratic condescension from the Border Patrol.

Now Bush has fanned the flames even more with his 'vigilante' comment. I seriously hope he is considering a retraction and clarification.

On the now removed thread, ScudBud had mentioned that he heard the leader of the project, a decorated veteran, on the radio responding to Bush's comment and he was near tears at the betrayal.

I am praying for all those people. They have more guts than the rest of us. If they get in trouble down there, and it looks like they are being squeezed between the lawless southern interests and the non-law enforcing government interests, they will be getting reinforcements, and this thing could get out of hand in a hurry.

27 posted on 03/24/2005 8:31:32 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

That thread appears to be back on the forum.


28 posted on 03/24/2005 9:13:39 PM PST by LNewman
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To: LNewman; B4Ranch; Travis McGee; wardaddy; Happy2BMe; HiJinx; Marine Inspector; ScudBud
That thread appears to be back on the forum.

It is indeed, less a few comments from the flamethrowers and a new home in the 'bloggers and personal' section. A nice surprise. Plus, I had sent a link to that thread to several party reps here in GA, in NC, and in DC, and now I won't have to explain why I sent them a dead link.

Sanity prevails. Thanks mods and JR. I believe we are all trying to keep it civil, even if a few darts get thrown here and there, including mine in post 6 above. Sorry about that.

29 posted on 03/24/2005 9:35:31 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Marine Inspector

Amen.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 9:45:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: spodefly; B4Ranch

Yep, that thread is back, and CJ is gone again. I hope that race-baiting flame inciter gets longer than a one week timeout this time.


31 posted on 03/24/2005 9:47:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Actually, it looks like CJ is still here ... at least the profile page comes up.

I would miss CJ is he (she?) was permanently gone ... weird but true. I often find myself reading thru a thread merrily absorbing the comments and then there is one comment that stands out and makes me reach for the psychic daggers ... then I see that it's just CJ.


32 posted on 03/24/2005 9:56:01 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
They may not matter to him personally, but if conservatives get ticked off enough the GOP coffers will start drying up and many will take their votes elsewhere -- third party or Independent conservatives.

My checkbook is already poised...

33 posted on 03/24/2005 10:09:45 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: spodefly

I concur with your thoughts.


34 posted on 03/25/2005 12:04:17 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: Travis McGee

A-firm.


35 posted on 03/25/2005 12:05:23 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: spodefly
Sanity prevails. Thanks mods and JR.

Agree. They've come a *long* way.

36 posted on 03/25/2005 12:06:41 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: Marine Inspector
For at least the last ten years the majority of Americans have been screaming for the feds to do something about out of control illegal immigration.

Sure they have. That it why the issue of illegal immigration has barely been a footnote in most elections for the last 10 years. The voters keep voting in primaries and general elections for politicians who ignore the issue altogether...because it is so important to the voters. Hmmm...

Maybe most the voters don't care so much as Jeff Adams' thinks they care.

37 posted on 03/25/2005 12:29:35 AM PST by Once-Ler (Proud member of the GOP.)
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA
They've caused crime, taken jobs, get welfare, cost us money in hospitals, and drive without insurance?

They take the jobs AND the welfare? How greedy. If we deport the illegals we will have good jobs and safe neighborhoods. Health care will be affordable and people will be responsible and get car insurance. And there will be lots and lots of welfare to go around. Boy it's hard to pass up such a convenient scapegoat.

38 posted on 03/25/2005 12:43:03 AM PST by Once-Ler (Proud member of the GOP.)
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To: Marine Inspector
If George W. Bush had an ounce of integrity,..

The key word being "if".

39 posted on 03/25/2005 2:15:41 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA
I thought the President was going to send more border patrols down on the southern bordre?

Lawmakers pressuring Bush for more Border Patrol agents
March 10, 2005

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan group of lawmakers... is pressing for money to hire thousands of new border guards that were approved by President Bush but then left out of the 2006 budget.

The letter [written by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin] was signed by 44 representatives, including 16 Texans.

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At issue is the disparity between the border security provisions in the intelligence reform bill Bush signed in mid-December and the 2006 budget that he released in February.

The reform package called for 10,000 more border patrol agents to be hired over the next five years, 800 additional interior investigators and 8,000 more detention beds.

The president's budget requested enough money for 210 border agents, 143 investigators and 1,920 beds.

The White House had promised that these "important steps would be fully funded in order to protect the nations borders, apprehend potential terrorists and detain them pending deportation," according to the letter.

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40 posted on 03/25/2005 2:32:36 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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