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Schiavo Did Not Suffer Her Brain Damage Outside The Hospital--It Occurred While She Was Hospitalized
Codeblueblog ^ | 3/24/05 | Doctor CBB

Posted on 03/24/2005 2:51:41 AM PST by AHerald

CSI MEDBLOGS: FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF CT BRAINS TURNS UP NEW ASTOUNDING EVIDENCE

If you look carefully at this time line you will see that Terri had "NORMAL" CT's of the brain on 2/25 and 2/27...

There is categorically and absolutely NO WAY Terri could have suffered MASSIVE ANOXIC INJURY TO THE BRAIN ON 2/25 AND HAVE NORMAL CT SCAN ON 2/27...

IF TERRI DID NOT SUFFER ANOXIC DAMAGE ON 2/25 THEN THE REASON FOR HER BRAIN ATROPHY WAS CAUSED BY SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED after 2/25 namely in the hospital during February or march of 1990...

So Terri WAS HIT ON THE HEAD OR DROPPED ON HER HEAD DURING LATER FEBRUARY OR EARLY MARCH WHILE IN THAT HOSPITAL.


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To: beyond the sea
(for what it's worth, I have never heard of this site)

It's grain of salt stuff for me also. Hadn't heard of the site either until a few days ago when his analysis of Terri's CT scan made the rounds of the Internet newsgroups and blogs and some FR threads. As to the doc's bone fides, I'm not up to speed. It does make for very interesting reading, however.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 3:29:05 AM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: JoeGar
What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Ha-ha. Okay, so my posting skills are less than desirable. Sue me. Do check out the source link, however, it's a worthy read.

22 posted on 03/24/2005 3:30:48 AM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: Jim Noble

Check this out, more medical information on this case, first I've seen concerning the first 2 months.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 3:31:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: AHerald

Code Blue seems to not understand that the doctors were sued in part because their treatment of Terri for cardiac arrest was inappropriate given her bulimia and extremely low potassium levels. Had she received better treatment, she might never have become PVS.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 3:32:24 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: AHerald

That's interesting, but irrelevant. I doubt anything will ever happen to the estranged husband after all this time. The entire case is giving food and water to someone who's obviously alive. Focus.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 3:39:19 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: AHerald
They also had an analysis of Clinton's follow-up operation. The writing was somewhat intelligent, but every once in a while there was a word thrown in there that indicated some prejudice.

But, I tend to think that this (Terri report) is true. Because of those early pictures of her in the hospital and other reports, I would think that this report can be true. But, as with most things about this case, the media will stay away from it like the PLAGUE!

The media is America's most evil and destructive force!. I've said this for a decade. For instance: How could all the polls show the majority of Americans want Terri to die? Because the people are filled with MEDIA LIES about this entire case. This country will be sick as long as the media is this evil and dishonest.

The socialist/liberal media is America's most evil and destructive force!.

26 posted on 03/24/2005 3:43:15 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Peach
Code Blue seems to not understand that the doctors were sued in part because their treatment of Terri for cardiac arrest was inappropriate given her bulimia and extremely low potassium levels.

Do you have any link to the specific evidence which definitively concludes that Terri suffered cardiac arrest? My understanding is that there was no presence of tell-tale enzymes which are produced as a result of a heart attack. If you know better, please point the way.

27 posted on 03/24/2005 3:43:25 AM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: AHerald; JoeGar
Do check out the source link, however, it's a worthy read.

Yes it is, and post # 17 is great too.

28 posted on 03/24/2005 3:49:09 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: AHerald

That's because Terri didn't suffer a heart attacks, she had cardiac arrest.

These are various links but if you only have time to read one, read Wolfson's. It's about 35-38 pages, IIIC. It's the first link.

Wolfson Report, which gives the most thorough history:
http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/wolfson%27s%20report.pdf

Cruzan decision
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=497&invol=261

More on Cruzan:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/cruzan.html

Terri's medical discharge summary:
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/Humana%20Discharge%20Summary%20050990.pdf

Report of Guardian ad litem Richard Pearse, who was relieved after 6 months when it was discovered that he had a previously stated personal objections to legalizing the removal of patient feeding tubes:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/richard-pearse-jr-12-29-98-report-of-guardianadlitem-re-terri-schiavo.pdf

Greer's denial of bone scan - the doctors who actually saw Terri, and the radiologist who did follow-up x-rays saw nothing suspicious.
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder11-02-scan.pdf

Greer's finding that Carla Iyer and others were not credible:
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/Order%20Denying%20Pet%20Immed%20Ther%20091703.pdf

Description of the complete 4 hours of video:
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/10/Tampabay/Schiavo_tapes__snippe.shtml

Description of the testimony at the 2000 trial to determine Terri's wishes.
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/08/Tampabay/Schiavo_s_wishes_reca.shtml

NATIONAL ENQUIRER 1998 featuring Dr. William Hammesfahr (he has ads there)
http://www.floridaneurologicalinstitute.com/national_enquirer_1998.htm



29 posted on 03/24/2005 3:49:33 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: AmericanChef; AHerald
That's interesting, but irrelevant. I doubt anything will ever happen to the estranged husband after all this time. The entire case is giving food and water to someone who's obviously alive. Focus.

You're right here somewhat, but there is NO reason for you to implore others to "Focus". They know what they're doing, and may have the ability, unlike you, to look into a number of matters at once on Terri's case......... and not lose their "focus'!

30 posted on 03/24/2005 3:53:51 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Peach; blam; Alamo-Girl; NautiNurse; Mitchell
......see post #20.......

commemts?

31 posted on 03/24/2005 3:56:20 AM PST by maestro
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To: Battle Axe; GOPJ
......see post #20.......

comments?

32 posted on 03/24/2005 4:01:33 AM PST by maestro
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To: thoughtomator
Thanks for the ping, but I'm not commenting on any of the medical stuff anymore.

I've never seen FR like this.

33 posted on 03/24/2005 4:01:51 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: beyond the sea

I appreciate the new insights. The Schiavo case basically shows that you can't mess with a combination of the judiciary and medical. They'll kill you if they can. One family was lucky enough to escape--the Jensens of Utah. The sage advice: stay as far away from both as possible.


34 posted on 03/24/2005 4:02:10 AM PST by dimmer-rats stealvotes
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes
The sage advice: stay as far away from both as possible.

I hear you!

35 posted on 03/24/2005 4:04:30 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Jim Noble

Just wanted you to see it. I fully understand your position.


36 posted on 03/24/2005 4:05:58 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: Peach
Bit of overkill on the links, but thanks. (Your Hammesfahr link seems to be broken.) And thanks for the corrective reminder vis-a-vis heart attacks versus cardiac arrest. I must have misunderstood the doc who spoke with Hannity.

Pearce's report is the most interesting of all to me, given that its conclusions were made prior to Terri's case entering into the glare of the media spotlight. I've pointed this out to you already on another thread, but Pearce's report was quite damning of Schiavo in many of the particulars.

37 posted on 03/24/2005 4:12:02 AM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: Peach; AHerald
A Just to be Clear Correction of post #37 :

...but Pearce's report was quite damning of Michael Schiavo in many of the particulars.

38 posted on 03/24/2005 4:15:43 AM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: AHerald

Just to be clear about Pearse:

All of her doctors (over 8) who treated Terri and all of her GALs said she was PVS - including Pearse, who sided with her parents on the tube (he had a moral problem with the idea of it for anyone), but in 6 months never elicited a response from Terri.


39 posted on 03/24/2005 4:19:44 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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