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Doctor: The "Water" in Terri’s Brain is a Myth [CT Scan Found As Well As Bone Scan Of Terri]
MediaCulpa ^ | March 22, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:31:11 AM PST by conservativecorner

You have probably heard Michael Schiavo’s attorney George Felos say things such as this about Terri Schiavo’s brain:

"CT scans just don't lie. When you look at that picture, you see a big black hole filled with water where her brain used to be," Felos said. "There is no cognition, no thought process, no awareness."

Now the doctor at CodeBlueBlog has found the CT scan that Felos is referring to, and what the doctor has discovered is both shocking and wonderful: Felos is wrong, the courts have been wrong. Terri’s brain is not damaged as much as we have been led to believe.

Update: The doctor has also looked at Terri's bone scan report, and concludes that "someone either was physically abusing Terri or they dropped/mishandled her severely."

CodeBlueBlog:

The most alarming thing about this image . . . is that there certainly is cortex left. Granted, it is severely thinned, especially for Terri's age, but I would be nonplussed if you told me that this was a 75 year old female who was somewhat senile but fully functional, and I defy a radiologist anywhere to contest that.

I HAVE SEEN MANY WALKING, TALKING, FAIRLY COHERENT PEOPLE WITH WORSE CEREBRAL/CORTICAL ATROPHY. THEREFORE, THIS IS IN NO WAY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT TERRI SCHIAVO'S MENTAL ABILITIES OR/OR CAPABILITIES ARE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. I CANNOT BELIEVE SUCH TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE BASIS OF THIS SCAN.

The worrisome, no alarming thing, for me, was that I heard a bioethicist and several important figures on the major media describe Terri's brain as MUCH WORSE. One "expert" said that she had a "bag of water" in her head. Several experts described her as a "brain stem preparation"

These statements are wholly inaccurate. This is an atrophied brain, yes, but there is cortex remaining, and where there's cortex (?life) there's hope.

If you starve this woman to death it would be, in my professional and experienced medical opinion, the equivalent of starving to death a 75-85 year old person. I would take that to the witness stand.

Wouldn’t you love to see the CodeBlueBlog doctor get the chance to take the witness stand and explain that Terri doesn’t have a "bag of water" in her brain? Spread the word about what the doctor has discovered -- and if you have an in with the Schindlers or their attorneys, please direct them to the CodeBlueBlog web site, where they can contact the doctor.

I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was abused, physically.

Link to bone scan.


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To: agrace
and all but Greer (the only one to conduct a trial) have ruled on HIS finding of fact and procedure.

Surely you are aware that the appellate court conducted a de novo review of the evidence, even though they did not have to.

121 posted on 03/23/2005 8:36:30 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: Tarantulas
So what Michael's family said about her was hearsay, but what Terri's family said about her was somehow not hearsay? How does her family's testimony carry "more weight?"

No, they should be given equal weight and as a matter of law this means that clear and convincing evidence has not been brought before the court.

Check post 23 - "Four board-certified neurologists in Florida consulting on her care (James H. Barnhill, Garcia J. Desousa, Thomas H. Harrison, and Jeffrey M. Karp) had repeatedly made a diagnosis of PVS over the years." Repeatedly. For years.

Check the court records, Judge Greer made his decision based on the testimony of 5 Docs, one of whom is a certifiable lunatic with views outside the mainstream of the medical and legal profession. That would be your guy. PVS patients have constitutional rights. PVS can not be diagnosed in 45 minutes. Patients with "PVS" in Terri's condition are not "flat lined".

What purpose would be served by more diagnostic imaging? Do you believe that brain cells spontaneously grow back?

The purpose of diagnostic imaging is to ascertain if Terri has cerbral cortex. To kill her without knowing that is criminal. No, but the brain is a funny thing that is not well understood in all of it's mechanisms. Do you claim to know that the brain can not compenstae for loss of mass?

Remember that Dr. Cranford is probably the leading expert in the country on PVS, then consider revising your statement.

Yeah, and Mengele was the leading expert in genetics in Germany. So what? The idiot has written that PVS patients have no constitutional rights. That is more than enough reason to ignore his testimony since 40% of PVS patients are misdiagnosed and this idiot doesn't see them as persons.

122 posted on 03/23/2005 8:36:52 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: philman_36

Thank you. You're absolutely right, I failed to put a link to my source in post #100. I appreciate the heads up.


123 posted on 03/23/2005 8:38:05 AM PST by Tarantulas
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To: ContemptofCourt
Well, then, you are just as qualified as I am to read this scan....which is to say completely unqualified.

I am unqualified to offer expert testimony on diagnostic images, I am eminently qualified to offer an opinion on same. You are neither.

124 posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:35 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ContemptofCourt

Make that "informed" opinion.


125 posted on 03/23/2005 8:40:12 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Ummm yeah, OK....if you say so.


126 posted on 03/23/2005 8:43:31 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt

It did? When?


127 posted on 03/23/2005 8:44:37 AM PST by agrace
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Good morning.

Lawyers = teats on a bull until you need one.

Michael Frazier


128 posted on 03/23/2005 8:47:40 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: ContemptofCourt
Surely you are aware that the appellate court conducted a de novo review of the evidence, even though they did not have to.

Balogna. A de novo review would allow the inclusion of new evidence, not a review of old evidence and the appellate court is not the venue for that. It didn't happen, stop saying it did.

129 posted on 03/23/2005 8:48:44 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Tarantulas

So, how long would it take for those tests? They could have already been run, even without the feeding tube, and we'd have an answer by now. Just why hasn't the court ordered these tests be taken?


130 posted on 03/23/2005 8:56:07 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Tarantulas
No, thanks for the info. You had previously provided a link at #89.
I found this from the same site interesting...
In re GUARDIANSHIP OF Theresa Marie SCHIAVO, Incapacitated.
This lawsuit is affected by an earlier lawsuit. In the early 1990s, Michael Schiavo, as Theresa's guardian, filed a medical malpractice lawsuit. That case resulted in a sizable award of money for Theresa. This fund remains sufficient to care for Theresa for many years. If she were to die today, her husband would inherit the money under the laws of intestacy. If Michael eventually divorced Theresa in order to have a more normal family life, the fund remaining at the end of Theresa's life would presumably go to her parents.

It has seemed to me that money has been an unstated issue/interest in all of this from the beginning.

131 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:02 AM PST by philman_36
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To: ContemptofCourt
Oh, I see, so you are saying that Terri has no attending physician?

No, but I am saying that you are a poor excuse for a lawyer. Lawyers generally understand that courts rule on the evidence presented in their courtrooms. Evidently, you missed that week in class.

132 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:31 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ContemptofCourt
Look, it's a fact proved by Cranford's own admission that he spent only about 45 minutes doing a clinical examination of Terri. Completely inadequate by all experts' accounts to make a proper diagnosis of PVS.

Attending physicians for patients placed in hospices and nursing homes are almost never neurologists.

If you can find evidence that the attending physician for Terri, hired by Michael Schiavo, is a neurologist, and has performed many hours of clinical neurological observation of Terri, and has confirmed Dr. Death's "diagnosis" of PVS, please present it.

133 posted on 03/23/2005 9:04:11 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!

Excuse me, but you said that he was the "only doctor", not neurologist, to observe Terri.


134 posted on 03/23/2005 9:06:11 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: jwalsh07
Balogna. A de novo review would allow the inclusion of new evidence, not a review of old evidence and the appellate court is not the venue for that. It didn't happen, stop saying it did.

You should stick to selling diagnostic imaging equipment.

A de novo review means that the appellate court looks at the evidence anew, or a second time. A de novo trial, on the other hand, is a completely new trial with new evidence.

135 posted on 03/23/2005 9:08:47 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt
Excuse me, but you said that he was the "only doctor", not neurologist, to observe Terri.

Oh jeeze, is that the best you can do?

I'm giving up on you. Clearly you've decided not to be bothered by the facts.

136 posted on 03/23/2005 9:09:51 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: jwalsh07

You are out of your league here, son. You either address the issues or go pout in the corner.


137 posted on 03/23/2005 9:10:21 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: shhrubbery!

What facts have you presented? I am still waiting for you to refute the Wolfson report.


138 posted on 03/23/2005 9:11:00 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: shhrubbery!
Eminent?

I've got a nice piece of land in the southern part of Florida you might be interested in...

139 posted on 03/23/2005 9:12:06 AM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Tarantulas

I find the fact that nobody has responded to your post to be very revealing.


140 posted on 03/23/2005 9:14:34 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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