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Hi Liz: However loudly we may assert our own unworthiness Few of us are realy offended by hearing the assertions contradicted, by a Disinterested party. I'm not sure I understand the thrust of your point, but I agree that contradiction is not an insult, per se, and shouldn't really offend anyone. When someone publishes their opinion, they should have some reasonable support for it. If they are contradicted, it shouldn't be difficult to justify your original opinion by using the "support" you had to form it. In this case, I think the ST moderator realizes their "mistake" in criticism of banning, when they have done and do, themself. Instead of supporting their argument(s), they attempt to kill-the-messenger who notices and reports on their hypocrisy and encourages ad hominem attacks on the "target" (none of the "gang members" were banned or corrected for their "abuse"). Then, holds that individual up to public ridicule by starting a thread about them, personally and by name. . . See, here: http://www.sierratimes.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=14&topic=689 Amazing, huh? Not only do they ban, but they libel, too!!!