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Sgrena's car proved she lied (with pictures)
The House Of Wheels ^ | 03/09/05 | Leigh Cartwright

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:45:05 PM PST by wheels128

You'll remember that Giuliana Sgrena claimed her car was shot at "300 or 400 times", among other lies she told that I listed here. It was easy to dismiss that claim as a lie on the spot, but it's even easier now that La Republica has posted photos of the car, but the AP posted clearer images. And thanks to LGF, here they are:

As you can see, there's virtually no damage to the car at all. Here's some low-quality photos of an armoured car hit 36 times:

We can safely say that an ordinary car hit 300-400 times will have at least 10 times the damage as an armoured car hit 36 times. Three people in that car died, yet only one dies in Sgrena's less protected car that was hit ten times as much?

Captain's Quarters has more:

This clearly shows that the vehicle did not come under heavy fire but probably got shot by handheld weapon trying to disable the vehicle. This picture is last in the slideshow; others show bullet holes on the fringe of the front windshield, which otherwise remains intact.

Whatever else happened, this vehicle did not come under heavy-weapons fire or indiscriminate automatic-arms fire. The fact that it's still got all of its fenders and its hood intact tells us that. One tire got shot out and one front-windshield bullet, possibly two, are all that La Repubblica can point out.

Sgrena lied.

While you can excuse slight errors in her story, the fact that she has exaggerated the number of bullets that hit her car by anywhere from 75 to 200 times casts far too much doubt over the story for her to be taken seriously.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 300; 400; bullets; calipari; car; checkpoint; giuliana; guiliana; italian; nicola; sgrena

1 posted on 03/08/2005 8:45:09 PM PST by wheels128
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To: Howlin; Dog

FYI


2 posted on 03/08/2005 8:46:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: wheels128

bttt


3 posted on 03/08/2005 8:46:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: wheels128

She's a commie. Of COURSE she's a liar.


4 posted on 03/08/2005 8:47:52 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: wheels128
Perhaps she means to demean our soldiers' marksmanship.


5 posted on 03/08/2005 8:48:55 PM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: Mo1

Yeah, and I wish we knew the exact amount of the ransome. Whatever it was, it was way too much to give to terrorists to slaughter innocent Iraqis and American soldiers.


6 posted on 03/08/2005 8:49:46 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: wheels128
Check out this very revealing account by a Dutch journalist of the conversation he had with Sgrena on the airplane ride into Iraq here.
7 posted on 03/08/2005 8:51:15 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: McGavin999

Supposedly 6 million.

So, what have we learned class? That the Italians gave money to OUR enemy to keep the insurgency going.


8 posted on 03/08/2005 8:51:27 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: McGavin999

This whole thing smells IMO


9 posted on 03/08/2005 9:09:37 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: mark502inf

ineresting post


10 posted on 03/08/2005 9:13:49 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: wheels128
The Italian government allegedly paid six million to have Sgrena freed from her captors. Six million to insurgent scum. Italy, what were you thinking?

The coalition and especially our troops are the big losers of this exchange.

The photos of the car show very slight damage...not 300-400 hits.

This conclusively proves Sgena is a liar with an obvious agenda.

11 posted on 03/08/2005 9:31:17 PM PST by afnamvet (31st Air Wing Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: wheels128
If she's right, we have platoon of soldiers somewhere in Iraq who badly need a refresher in marksmanship.
12 posted on 03/08/2005 9:44:50 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Redcloak

If she means to demean the marksmanship of the American troops, then she's failing miserably. We only know of three bullets that hit the car:

1. Into the engine;
2. Into a tire;
3. Through her shoulder and into Capilari's head.

I'd call that exceptional marksmenship, to put a car out of order and hit two occupants in three shots.


13 posted on 03/08/2005 10:10:33 PM PST by wheels128
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To: wheels128

ping


14 posted on 03/08/2005 10:17:58 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: wheels128
She may mean that 397 rounds missed.


15 posted on 03/09/2005 1:08:33 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: McGavin999
Yeah, and I wish we knew the exact amount of the ransom.

6,000,000 Euros

16 posted on 03/09/2005 2:48:03 AM PST by Salman
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To: Howlin
So, what have we learned class? That the Italians gave money to OUR enemy to keep the insurgency going.

Yes, money they won't have to go somewhere else to look for.

17 posted on 03/09/2005 4:26:49 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank)
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To: wheels128
It's the seriousness of the allegation that should be considered, not the evidence (or the lack thereof). Come on, don't tell me that even after Dan Rather you don't know how the communist "reporters" operate.
18 posted on 03/09/2005 4:29:53 AM PST by shezza
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