[franksolich]

What has always amused me is their constant contention that the overwhelming majority of the military vote went for Kerry, and not Bush.

To me, this seems the same thing as myself insisting the overwhelming majority of the Boston vote went for Bush, and not Kerry, and was not counted, or miscounted.

And the sad fact is, while the DUmmies are, and I would be, wrong, I would perhaps be closer to the truth than they--Bush would never have won Boston, but it seems highly likely he probably got more votes in Boston than were counted.

[maryz]

I'm in Boston (Southie, if you know the area), and you could be right. Kerry was actually booed at a "time" in Southie; he was having a fundraiser upstairs, and one of the local pols invited him to step in and say a few words. I gather it turned out to be very few! Southie has lots of "Reagan Democrats" and a high count of veterans.

Boston elections, I hear, are incredibly dirty -- and the significant ones are Dems against Dems. My sister has a friend (an honest man) who used to be high up in the Boston election department (retired early -- diabetes). Knocked himself out on the job -- problem was he didn't feel he could trust the people working for him, so he was always running around like a madman during elections, though there was one primary (very local and low-level with about 10% turnout) that he believed was "pretty clean."