[Charles Henrickson]

She argued that Democrats should insist on "accountability and transparency" in how votes are tabulated.

I'm sure Terry will want to start in north city St. Louis, the city of Chicago, King County Washington. . . .

[Charles Henrickson]

I forgot Palm Beach County, Florida.

[franksolich]

That's why I think the Democrats are not serious about election reform; they subconsciously understand that if all fraud were uncovered, nearly all of it would have been that involving Democrats.

I mean, can anyone name a Republican "machine" anywhere?

All I can think of is that Pennsylvania, and the cities of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, used to be run by Republican machines, but that was circa 1890-1930, and they were utterly destroyed by the Great Depression.

In the meantime, the Democratic machines are still very much alive in Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Lost Angeles, Boston, New York City, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, &c., &c., &c.--just about every city in the United States with more than 800,000 in population.

So I think the Democrats are not really serious about election reform; it would uncover too much, and uncover things they don't want uncovered.

Anyway, however, as we learn from the DUmmies, the "cause" (election reform) provides a convenient cover, a respectable facade, for their real interests, raising dough for 5-star hotels (Bev Harris) or underwear (the DUmmie "Andy Stephenson").