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Telsla's Electric Car
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Posted on 03/06/2005 2:41:14 AM PST by Lori675

Tesla had already considered the condition of charged particles, each representing a tightly constricted whorl of aether. The force necessarily exerted at close distances by such aetheric constrictions was incalculably large. Aetheric ponderance maintained particulate stability.

Crystalline lattices were therefore places within which one could expect to find unexpected voltages. Indeed, the high voltages inherent in certain metallic lattices, intra-atomic field energies, are enormous. The close Coulomb gradient between atomic centers are electrostatic potentials reaching humanly unattainable levels.

By comparison, the voltages which Tesla once succeeded in releasing were quite insignificant. In these balanced lattices, Tesla sought the voltages needed to initiate directed aetheric streams in matter.

Once such a flow began, one could simply tap the stream for power.

In certain materials, these ether streams might automatically produce the contaminating electrons, a source of energy for existing appliances. One could theoretically then "tailor" the materials needed to produce unexpected aetheric power with or without the attendant detrimental particles.

Tesla did mention the latent aetheric power of charged forces, the explosive potentials of bound Ether, and the aetheric power inherent in matter.

By these studies, Tesla sought replacement for the 100,000,000 volt initiating pulses which natural law required for the implementation of space Ether. Tesla had long been forced to abandon those gigantic means by other, less natural laws.

Thereafter, Tesla shifted his attentions from the appreciation of the gigantic to an appreciation of the miniature. He sought a means for proliferating an immense number of small and compact aether power receivers.

With one such device, Tesla succeeded in obtaining power to drive am electric car. But for the exceptional account which follows, we would have little information on this last period in Tesla's productive life, one which very apparently did not cease its prolific streams of creativity to his last breath.

The information comes through an unlikely source, one rarely mentioned by Tesla biographers. It chanced that an aeronautical engineer, Derek Ahlers, met with one of Tesla's nephews then living in New York. Theirs was an acquaintance lasting some 10 years, consisting largely of anecdotal commentaries on Dr. Tesla. Mr. Savo provided an enormous fund of knowledge concerning many episodes in Tesla's last years.

Himself an Austrian military man and a trained aviator, Mr. Savo was extremely open about certain long-cherished incidents in which his uncle's genius was consistency made manifest. Mr. Savo reported that in 1931, he participated in an experiment involving aetheric power. Unexpectedly, almost inappropriately, he was asked to accompany his uncle on a long train ride to Buffalo.

A few times in this journey, Mr. Savo asked the nature of their journey. Dr. Tesla remained unwilling to disclose any information, speaking rather directly to this issue. Taken into a small garage, Dr. Tesla walked directly to a Pierce Arrow, opened the hood and began making a few adjustments. In place of the engine, there was an AC motor.

This measured a little more than 3 feet long, and a little more than 2 feet in diameter. From it trailed two very thick cables which connected with the dashboard. In addition, there was an ordinary 12 volt storage battery. The motor was rated at 80 horsepower.

Maximum rotor speed was stated to be 30 turns per second. A 6 foot antenna rod was fitted into the rear section of the car.

Dr. Tesla stepped into the passenger side and began making adjustments on a "power receiver" which had been built directly into the dashboard.

The receiver, no larger than a short-wave radio of the day, used 12 special tubes which Dr. Tesla brought with him in a boxlike case.

The device had been prefitted into the dashboard, no larger than a short-wave receiver. Mr. Savo told Mr. Ahler that Dr. Tesla built the receiver in his hotel room, a device 2 feet in length, nearly 1 foot wide, a 1/2 foot high.

These curiously constructed tubes having been properly installed in their sockets, Dr. Tesla pushed in 2 contact rods and informed Peter that power was now available to drive.

Several additional meters read values which Dr. Tesla would not explain. Not sound was heard. Dr. Tesla handed Mr. Savo the ignition key and told him to start the engine, which he promptly did. Yet hearing nothing, the accelerator was applied, and the car instantly moved. Tesla's nephew drove this vehicle without other fuel for an undetermined long interval.

Mr. Savo drove a distance of 50 miles through the city and out to the surrounding countryside. The car was tested to speeds of 90 mph, with the speedometer rated to 120.

After a time, and with increasing distance from the city itself, Dr. Tesla felt free enough to speak. Having now become sufficiently impressed with the performance of both his device and the automobile.

Dr. Tesla informed his nephew that the device could not only supply the needs of the car forever, but could also supply the needs of a household - with power to spare. When originally asked how the device worked, Tesla was initially adamant and refused to speak.

Many who have read this "apocryphal account" have stated it to be the result of an "energy broadcast". This misinterpretation has simply caused further confusions concerning this stage of Tesla's work. He had very obviously succeeded in performing, with this small and compact device, what he had learned in Colorado and Shoreham.

As soon as they were on the country roads, clear of the more congested areas, Tesla began to lecture on the subject. Of the motive source he referred to "a mysterious radiation which comes out of the aether". The small device very obviously and effectively appropriated this energy.

Tesla also spoke very glowingly of this providence, saying of the energy itself that "it is available in limitless quantities".

Dr. Tesla stated that although "he did not know where it came from, mankind should be very grateful for its presence".

The two remained in Buffalo for 8 days, rigorously testing the car in the city and countryside. Dr. Tesla also told Mr. Savo that the device would soon be used to drive boats, planes, trains, and other automobiles. Once, just before leaving the city limits, they stopped at a streetlight and a bystander joyfully commented concerning their lack of exhaust fumes.

Mr. Savo spoke up whimsically, saying that they had "no engine". They left Buffalo and traveled to a predetermined location which Dr. Tesla knew, an old farmhouse barn some 20 miles from Buffalo. Dr. Tesla and Mr. Savo left the car in this barn, took the 12 tubes and the ignition key, and departed.

Later on, Mr. Savo heard a rumor that a secretary had spoken candidly about both the receiver and the test run, being promptly fired for the security breach. About a month after the incident, Mr. Savo received a call from a man who identified himself as Lee De Forest, who asked how he enjoyed the car.

Mr. Savo expressed his joy over the mysterious affair, and Mr. de Forest declared Tesla the greatest living scientist in the world. Later, Mr. Savo asked his uncle whether or not the power receiver was being used in other applications.

He was informed that Dr. Tesla had been negotiating with a major shipbuilding company to build a boat with a similarly outfitted engine. Asked additional questions, Dr. Tesla became annoyed. Highly concerned and personally strained over the security of this design, it seems obvious that Tesla was performing these tests in a desperate degree of secrecy for good reasons.

Tesla had already been the victim of several manipulations, deadly actions entirely sourced in a single financial house. For this reason, secrecy and care had become his only recent excess.


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To: Lori675
These infinite energy jokers have never studied the law.

The laws of thermodynamics that is...

Gotta Love'm Though

LOL F H
21 posted on 03/06/2005 4:22:21 AM PST by Fish Hunter
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To: Ichneumon

Uhhh...that's a water tower under construction dude...


22 posted on 03/06/2005 4:27:20 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lori675

Sounds like induction... I have seen some flashlights that are new on the market... a permanent magnet in the handle with wire wrapped around part of it. Move the flashlight back and forth, causing the magnet to move past the wires, induces enough current to power the flashlight.


23 posted on 03/06/2005 4:27:27 AM PST by ikka
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To: Lori675
This story sounds like a UFO type story.

It's "free" energy nonsense.

I caught a really funny "Mythbusters" episode a week or so ago.
They got on the internet and sent away for a bunch of "free-energy" blueprints.

They got the help of an electrical engineering guru from MIT to build these devices,
all of which failed to produce any "free-energy". Myth-Busted!

They ain't no free-lunch, honey,
but the true believers will never be dissuaded, God bless them.

24 posted on 03/06/2005 4:39:03 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: ikka

Goodness. If all this is true and Tesla's invention had developed, by now the "device" would probably be a whole lot smaller than the original. Judging by the cell phone among other things as an example, which has gone from huge just a few years ago to smaller and smaller every year.


25 posted on 03/06/2005 4:46:20 AM PST by Twinkie ( I'm testing to see how many people read taglines. So far, at least two smarties.)
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To: Michael121
Thanks for your comments.

It's somewhat unclear to me if you're justifying the story or if you simply saw me drowning in a sea of stupidity and decided to toss me a flotation device. So first I have to ask what kind of reading you're getting on your BS detector with respect to this article. I say it was made up by some fruitcake in a propeller hat, but I'm interested to see what you think.

As to your other comments, I grasp what your saying, and it leaves me with some questions, but I don't know the lingo so I'll have to use illustrations that I can coherently describe (my way of asking you to cut me some slack).

So you're saying that there's some sort of background energy all around us and we've been able to observe this background energy in the act of making particles (changes in audio and light frequencies).

I think that everyone can agree that there is, of course, a fundamental difference between "detectable" and "usable". That being said, wouldn't this energy be largely undetectable by virtue of the fact that it's hanging out in zero mode waiting to "flash briefly into existence and expire within an interval dictated by the uncertainty principle"?

Assuming it could be manipulated and controlled to our advantage, couldn't it also be manipulated and controlled to our disadvantage? If so, what currently keeps it in balance (neither helping nor hurting us) now?

Would we have to control things like gravity and temperature to harness this energy? If so, what keeps the necessary adjustments in things like gravity and temperature from having an effect on us? If we can push a boat through the water "for free" what would stop that energy from also pushing the human for free? That is to say, what allows us to be selective?

I have a lot more questions but I know you're not running an online physics class here. In a nutshell we think we can make order evolve from randomness. Well, to really swallow that requires one hell of a drink. One thing is for certain: We've got to find that damned briefcase full of tubes before it falls into the hands of Dr. Evil.
26 posted on 03/06/2005 5:44:48 AM PST by Jaysun (Ask me for a free "Insomnia for Beginners" guide.)
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To: Lori675

"In place of the engine, there was an AC motor.

This measured a little more than 3 feet long, and a little more than 2 feet in diameter. From it trailed two very thick cables which connected with the dashboard. In addition, there was an ordinary 12 volt storage battery. The motor was rated at 80 horsepower.

Maximum rotor speed was stated to be 30 turns per second. "

LOL
The person is very exact about size, hp and RPM (1800).

I know a nephew who knows a person who is a maid of the person who was kin to the person who saw the man who saw the demonstration of the pill which turned water into gasoline.

Tesla was a genius but he became airy fairy in his dotage.


27 posted on 03/06/2005 6:02:26 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/02/ford_introducin.html
February 24, 2005
Ford Introducing H2 Combustion Engines to Industrial Marketplace

Ford Power Products (FPP), a division of Ford Powertrain Operations, is introducing hydrogen-fueled internal combustion engines (H2ICEs) to the industrial marketplace.

This parallels Ford Motor Company’s introduction of the E-450 commercial hydrogen-powered shuttle bus. (Earlier post.)

FPP currently has two different hydrogen engines prototyped for the industrial marketplace: a 4.2-liter V-6 hydrogen engine for airline ground support equipment, and the 6.8-liter V-10 hydrogen engine (picture at right) for power generation applications. Each burns compressed gaseous hydrogen.

Preliminary Ford H2ICE Engine Specs
V-6 V-10
Displacement (liters) 4.2 6.8
Rated Power (kW/hp) 60/80 140/188
Minimum Fuel Pressure @ engine (psi) 125 125

The E-450 is also based on the V-10 hydrogen-fueled engine.


28 posted on 03/06/2005 7:59:23 AM PST by Lori675
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/02/ford_introducin.html
February 24, 2005
Ford Introducing H2 Combustion Engines to Industrial Marketplace

Ford Power Products (FPP), a division of Ford Powertrain Operations, is introducing hydrogen-fueled internal combustion engines (H2ICEs) to the industrial marketplace.

This parallels Ford Motor Company’s introduction of the E-450 commercial hydrogen-powered shuttle bus. (Earlier post.)

FPP currently has two different hydrogen engines prototyped for the industrial marketplace: a 4.2-liter V-6 hydrogen engine for airline ground support equipment, and the 6.8-liter V-10 hydrogen engine (picture at right) for power generation applications. Each burns compressed gaseous hydrogen.

Preliminary Ford H2ICE Engine Specs
V-6 V-10
Displacement (liters) 4.2 6.8
Rated Power (kW/hp) 60/80 140/188
Minimum Fuel Pressure @ engine (psi) 125 125

The E-450 is also based on the V-10 hydrogen-fueled engine.


29 posted on 03/06/2005 8:08:40 AM PST by Lori675
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To: Michael121
Like position and momentum, energy L and time also obey Heisenberg's rule.

Are there other pairs that observe Heisenberg's rule?

31 posted on 03/06/2005 8:25:56 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: Lori675

Nikolai Tesla... Bump for later.


32 posted on 03/06/2005 9:31:09 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Jaysun

There was just an "engine" made by a guy about 2 years ago, on Science channel.

His "engine" pulled zero point energy out of atoms. It is unlimited like "dark matter" but we need an "engine" or a collector.

The article was kind of like Tesla's Collector.

He pulled energy from the atmosphere. He found that zero point energy existed.

http://www.zpenergy.com/


33 posted on 03/06/2005 2:58:13 PM PST by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: LeGrande
Everything in the universe ad-hears to the "Uncertainty Principle"

"The observance of any phenomena automatically modifies that phenomena"
34 posted on 03/06/2005 3:00:07 PM PST by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: Michael121
Okay, I'll check out the link. For God's sake man, you have to answer that one little question, it's driving me mad. Where do you stand as to the validity of this story???
35 posted on 03/06/2005 4:07:15 PM PST by Jaysun (Ask me for a free "Insomnia for Beginners" guide.)
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To: Jaysun

With Tesla All things are possible.

His idea was FREE ENERGY transmitted to the world.

If his "Collector" and I believe he had one as to this story, why not we have one today on a small scale, were built than no more oil, fuel cells or anything is needed bacause technically Zero-Point would be almost the perpetual machine, using its own exhaust as fuel.


36 posted on 03/06/2005 4:26:22 PM PST by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: Lori675

Interesting. Quite a bit of Tesla in the character of John Galt. (Or quite a bit of Atlas Shrugged in this "story")


37 posted on 03/06/2005 4:36:52 PM PST by evolved_rage (OLAP SCHMOLAP)
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To: Michael121
"The observance of any phenomena automatically modifies that phenomena"

It was my understanding that it doesn't actually have to be observed. Thats what keeps electrons in "orbit" if the position gets too close to the nucleus and hence is "known" its momentum has to increase dramatically.

So are you saying that any two pairs I pick are mutually exclusive? Time and momentum, wave and particle, mass and energy, position and energy, etc?
38 posted on 03/06/2005 5:42:29 PM PST by LeGrande
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To: evolved_rage
Just a quick scan of the article brings up only one item of objection: single phase versus 3 phase. A single phase 230V motor of 1 h.p. is rated by the National Electric Code at 8 amps. A 3 phase 1 h.p. 1800 RPM motor at 230Vis rated at 3.5 amps. I do little work with 230V, but the standard 480V 3 phase 1 hp 1750 RPM motor draws 1.3 amps. The 1750 rpm is because a standard motor has a little "slip" in it magnetically. If it were synchronous it would be 1800 rpm.

Result of 35 years of industrial electrical work.
39 posted on 03/06/2005 5:47:44 PM PST by AntiBurr ("You cannot play the song of freedom on an instrument of oppression! "--- S. Lec)
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To: evolved_rage
Just a quick scan of the article brings up only one item of objection: single phase versus 3 phase. A single phase 230V motor of 1 h.p. is rated by the National Electric Code at 8 amps. A 3 phase 1 h.p. 1800 RPM motor at 230Vis rated at 3.5 amps. I do little work with 230V, but the standard 480V 3 phase 1 hp 1750 RPM motor draws 1.3 amps. The 1750 rpm is because a standard motor has a little "slip" in it magnetically. If it were synchronous it would be 1800 rpm.

Result of 35 years of industrial electrical work.
40 posted on 03/06/2005 5:50:39 PM PST by AntiBurr ("You cannot play the song of freedom on an instrument of oppression! "--- S. Lec)
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