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"Matt Conigliaro is clearly a liar, for claiming that "The only debate between the doctors is whether she has a small amount of isolated living tissue in her cerebral cortex or whether she has no living tissue in her cerebral cortex." Dr. Hammesfher disagrees, so there *is* a debate, and it is *not* what Mr. Conigliaro claims."

No. See above.
You are calling Matt Conigliaro a liar when all he is doing is quoting the 4 judges in their decisions after hearing testimony on the stand by all the doctors, including Hammasfher. If you read the transcript of the trial, you'll see they are exactly right.

From the decision of Florida's second district court of appeals:

The only debate between the doctors
is whether she has a small amount
of isolated living tissue in her cerebral cortex
or whether she has no living tissue in her cerebral cortex.

Clear enough???

By the way, the 2D Court of Appeals didn't just review the handling of the hearing, they actually went out of their way re-examined the evidence presented and the testimony of each doctor themselves.

When Hammesfher gave actual testimony under oath, he was a hell of a lot less cocky than he was in that report, or since then running around doing interviews where he wont be subject to questioning. Again, he wrote his report *before* the trial, yet knowing it was full of bull, they *refused* to put it into evidence and allow it to be cross-examined!

As I said, I wouldn't call him a quack, but I will call him a liar - in the Clintonian sense at the very least. He tells half-truths and uses select words to mislead people. I show an example HERE.

Anyway... I'm doing my best to hold my tongue here, and please note all the stuff I don't comment on in all these other threads. But sheeeesh it is hard. Y'all base most of your case on this one doctor and his twisted words.

I stand corrected on Mr. Conigliaro's truthfulness, at least with regards to this statement. He was quoting the court, and cannot be blamed for what they said.

Now where can I get a copy of that transcript you mentioned? The link you provided is just to the decision, not to the testimony. It does, however, have this interesting comment:

On remand, this court anticipated but did not require that Dr. Webber, who had claimed in his affidavit that he might be able to restore Mrs. Schiavo's speech and some of her cognitive functioning, would testify for the parents and provide scientific support for his claim.

The possibility of restoring speech and some cognitive function to Terri is inconsistent with her having just "a small amount of isolated living tissue in her cerebral cortex or ... no living tissue in her cerebral cortex". So Dr. Webber, in addition to Dr. Hammesfher, does not agree with the alleged consensus amoung doctors about Terri's condition.

You are calling Matt Conigliaro a liar when all he is doing is quoting the 4 judges in their decisions after hearing testimony on the stand by all the doctors, including Hammasfher. If you read the transcript of the trial, you'll see they are exactly right. From the decision of Florida's second district court of appeals:
The only debate between the doctors is whether she has a small amount of isolated living tissue in her cerebral cortex or whether she has no living tissue in her cerebral cortex.
Clear enough???

Clear, but untrue. Drs. Hammasfher, Webber and Maxfield disagree. Other doctors were also ready to offer sworn testimony that Terri was not in PVS, but were refused.

None of the doctors claim she has no living tissue in her cerebral cortex. Dr. Cranford claimed that she had no living neurons in her cortex. On cross-examination, he admitted there might be pockets of viable neurons as "a remote possibility", but even he does not describe them as "isolated". Dr. Greer might agree, but if he does, he didn't say so.

Here is the exchange with Dr. Bambakidis on this issue:

8 Q. Now, is there any brain matter left in

9 Terri Schiavo's cerebral --

10 A. Oh, there is. Yes.

11 Q. -- cerebral hemispheres?

12 A. Yes, there is.

13 Q. And, in your opinion, would any of that

14 tissue be glial cells?

15 A. Yes.

That is all. Michael Schiavo's lawyer creates the impression that Dr. Bambakidis is confirming Dr. Cranford's claim that all of the neurons in Terri's cortex were replaced by glial cells, but that is a false impression. What Dr. Bambakidis actually said is trivial, *everyone* has glial cells in his cortex.

Dr. Bambakidis does say that Terri is in PVS, but the court has made a stronger claim, and claims it to be unanimous medical opinion, on the testimony of one doctor.