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Michael Schiavo's former girlfriend speaks: Excerpts From Depo
Hyscience ^ | Feb 12, 2005

Posted on 02/14/2005 6:26:09 AM PST by amdgmary

Saturday, February 12, 2005

Michael Schiavo's former girlfriend speaks: Excerpts From Cynthia Shook's May 8, 2001 Deposition given in fear In a previous Hyscience post, Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H., Psychiatrist and expert medical witness, and the author of the book, Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them, was quoted as saying, "I have studied men who exhibit pathology in their relationships with women. Profiles of the twelve different types of bad boys are explained. Michael Schiavo fits the profile, described in the book as the Prince of Darkness (see chapter 13). O.J. Simpson was cited as a classic example of this type, and there are indeed similarities between the two men.

It is especially significant to note that O.J. flew into a homicidal rage when he realized that Nicole was totally abandoning him, as is characteristic of these impulsive men who most dread being abandoned by their woman. Similarly, Michael Schiavo was likely to have known that Terri had begun making plans to divorce him, since she had told a coworker and family member. Stalking is characteristic of this type of man, as well. And a girlfriend of Michael’s, Cindy, accused him of stalking her in 2001."

This is the story of "Cindy," and the deposition that she had to be forced to give, out of her fear of Michael Schiavo. Terri was also afraid of Michael, but of course Michael has been hard at work to make sure that she can't give a deposition as Cindy has!

In late 1991, 1½ years after Terri’s collapse, Michael Schiavo became involved in an intimate relationship with Cindy Shook. The romance continued for approximately one year. It can be documented that the two spent a weekend at the Don Caesar hotel in St. Petersburg Beach and they also contacted a Century 21 Realtor on the premise of purchasing a home.

In May of 1992, at the apex of the romance, Schiavo had Terri’s 2 pet cats euthanized to clear the way for his moving in with Cindy and her pet dog.

In the summer of 1992, Schiavo moved into his parent’s home. We can speculate with reasonable accuracy, it was at the instructions of his attorney, since the living arrangement would be contrary to Schiavo’s "loving husband" image they were projecting for the upcoming November 1992 malpractice trial.

In April 2001, Cindy Shook (married name Brasher) was interviewed by an investigator working in Terri’s behalf. Unwilling to come forward because of her immense fear of Schiavo, Cindy had to be subpoenaed and was then subsequently deposed on May 8, 2001 to try and learn more regarding her intimate knowledge of Michael Schiavo’s character traits.

Excerpts; May 8, 2001 Deposition:

Cindy Shook describing Schiavo’s possessiveness.

"he’s very jealous. He stalked me at my…at where I worked after I stopped dating…when he would get mad at me he would tell me, I would rather be laying in bed in the nursing home with her than with you. I mean he can be the most incredibly mean person"

When asked if she were afraid that Michael would physically harm her or if he would harm children.

"I am concerned about retaliation because I have a child -I have children and a husband. I know him, I know what he told me I said he could be a very mean person."

She spoke of how Schiavo stalked her for close to a year after the breakup and that she received repeated phone calls.

"He came on the floor looking for me several times. I felt it was out of character for him to get a job as an orderly at the hospital That was concerning to me. When he would come up to the floor looking for her she was not scared the first time but later was scared.

In town I would look up when I was driving…not at my work- she would look up in the rear view mirror and there would be Michael Schiavo. I would look up and he would be behind me in traffic. It continued for several months after he didn’t work at the hospital. She would change lanes, try to make a turn and he would do the same. He did this about ten times.

One time he was behind me in traffic he got next to me in a two-lane going the same way, and he changed lanes basically right on top of where I was at, and I had to swerve not to be hit. I had to swerve off the road. Michael ran me off the road. I considered it as stalking, dangerous and guessed potentially life threatening."

Cindy thought about getting a restraining order. She talked to an off duty police officer in her building

They discussed marriage. She said Schiavo asked what would you do if I asked you to marry me. He never discussed getting a divorce.

Cindy said Schiavo got angry when asked questions about Terri saying:

"this had destroyed his life and he was being robed of a normal life."

Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said,

"How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

THEY NEVER SPOKE OF THIS! Yet now Michael claims that Terri's wish was to die of starvation and dehydration, and the infamous Judge George Greer rubber stamps it. Why?


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: cindyshook; michaelschiavo; schiavo; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrischivo
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To: amdgmary

This is meaningless unless she had gotten a restraining order against the monster which she apparently did not. Waste of time. She's a moron to ever have gotten mixed up with that creep. Sheeeeesh.


21 posted on 02/14/2005 10:06:09 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Saundra, it's her deposition.


22 posted on 02/14/2005 10:11:24 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose

Bump!


23 posted on 02/14/2005 12:11:43 PM PST by pc93
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To: Saundra Duffy

I understand what you are saying. IF she were ever called to testify, the opposing Attorney would tear her up with, Well it couldn't have been that bad since you didn't need to get a restraining order could it?", Obviously, Mr. Schiavo stopped didn't he?" and so on. However, even the deposition does give some weight to question his credibility and character.


24 posted on 02/14/2005 12:36:49 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South - we'd make good Americans!!)
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To: amdgmary

Bump!


25 posted on 02/14/2005 4:51:45 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Bump!


26 posted on 02/14/2005 4:52:35 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: tutstar
Wonder if Greer is afraid too.

Hey, maybe you have something here! Maybe this would explain his "lawbreaking" - if he had been threatened by Michael and Felos?

27 posted on 02/14/2005 6:48:15 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover

Yeh but trying to find out if there is anything to it would be hard. Too bad someone doesn't have the money for a PI.


28 posted on 02/14/2005 6:52:26 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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Terri bump!


29 posted on 02/14/2005 10:20:04 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: tutstar; AnimalLover
TUTSTAR ASKED: "Wonder if Greer is afraid too."

ANIMALLOVER RESPONDED: "Hey, maybe you have something here! Maybe this would explain his "lawbreaking" - if he had been threatened by Michael and Felos?"

TUTSTAR RESPONDED BACK: "Yeh but trying to find out if there is anything to it would be hard. Too bad someone doesn't have the money for a PI."

It's called SCIENTOLOGY!!! I don't recall where I read it, but I remember reading something about Greer possibly being threatened or BLACKMAILED by members of the SCIENTOLOGY CULT.

The SCIENTOLOGY CULT has an EXTREMELY STRONG following in Clearwater, FL (I think it may be their national headquarters), and they have apparently done the same thing regarding another young lady, who was in great shape just prior to suddenly taking a turn for the worst with BEATINGS and what appear to be CIGARETTE or CHEMICAL BURNS all over her body.

(Doesn't that make you want to be a member of their CULT??? NOT!!!

I just found the article regarding the woman in Clearwater---Lisa McPherson. Check out the URLs below:

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisapics.htm

30 posted on 02/14/2005 11:38:21 PM PST by Concerned (RATS can't win unless they LIE, CHEAT and/or STEAL!!!)
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To: Concerned
You are right! I do remember something about SCIENTOLOGY
and how some of the members took over the care of this
young lady.

Let me run back over my files (I'm just a little pack rat) and will let you know if I can find the particulars.

Thanks!
31 posted on 02/14/2005 11:48:46 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Concerned
TheWPBFChannel.com
Court Overturns Ruling On Brain-Damaged Illegal Immigrant
Man Racks Up $2 Million In Medical Bills
POSTED: 9:51 AM EDT May 6, 2004
UPDATED: 10:08 AM EDT May 6, 2004

STUART, Fla. -- A state appeals court has overturned a decision that allowed a Stuart hospital to return a brain-damaged illegal immigrant to his native Guatemala after he racked up more than $2 million in medical bills.
The 4th District Court of Appeal said Wednesday that Martin Memorial Medical Center could not release Luis Alberto Jimenez without proof he would get the care he needs in Guatemala.
Justice Larry Klein cited expert testimony saying there are no public health care facilities providing traumatic brain injury rehabilitation in the Central American nation.
Jimenez was severely injured in a February 2000 car crash. He was hospitalized at Martin Memorial for more than three years.
A Florida judge allowed the hospital to return Jimenez after the Guatemalan Minister of Health assured him the patient would receive appropriate treatment and therapy at no charge in that country.
Jimenez was soon airlifted to Guatemala. He was briefly hospitalized, but is now living with his mother in a poor town.
Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press </news/2455821/detail.html>. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
32 posted on 02/15/2005 12:03:02 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Concerned
Florida Teacher Blames Firing on Support for Terri Schiavo

By Jeff Johnson CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer

December 09, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - A Pinellas County, Fla., teacher -- who is disabled and works with disabled students- - claims she is being fired because she voiced her support for another disabled Florida woman: Terri Schindler Schiavo.

Rus Cooper-Dowda told CNSNews.com Wednesday morning that the Pinellas County School Board voted six-to-one to fire her Tuesday night, citing "job perforrmance" as the reason. The veteran teacher claims she was terminated in retaliation for sharing her opinion about the Schiavo case in response to a reporter's question.

She also said that some school board members wanted her to provide more information about her claims but were discouraged from asking questions at Tuesday night's hearing by an attorney for the board.

Terri Schindler Schiavo is the 39-year-old woman who suffered a severe brain injury under questionable circumstances in 1990. Doctors hired by her husband, and a court-appointed expert who reviewed Terri's medical records, believe she is in a "Persistent Vegetative State," while doctors employed by her parents and unpaid experts have said that Terri's condition could improve with therapy and rehabilitation.

Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, received court permission to have Terri's feeding tube removed so she would die by dehydration and starvation. But the move was blocked, initially through legal actions brought by Terri's parents and, then, by a law passed by the Florida legislature and signed by Republican Gov. Jeb Bush.

Schiavo is currently challenging the constitutionality of the legislation, dubbed "Terri's Law" by its supporters.

After a Florida court gave Schiavo permission to let his wife die in early October, Cooper-Dowda responded to a question from a local television reporter about the judge's decision.

"I did a very brief interview, offsite, on my own time, not identifying as a teacher, where I said, 'As a disabled Floridian of faith, female, with disabilities, this is scary,'" Cooper-Dowda explained. "And I was really clear that 'you cannot say I am a teacher' and the reporter was disappointed because I teach special ed[ucation], but agreed."

What the 26-year-veteran teacher could not have known at the time was that many of the students at Bay Point Middle School - where she taught children with behavioral, emotional and learning disabilities - were watching the local news that evening for extra credit. Word of Cooper-Dowda's "stardom" traveled quickly.

"The next morning I came in [and] there was a [regular monthly] faculty meeting, the Christian faculty who saw it ... said it was 'a really great, life-affirming interview,'" Cooper Dowda explained. "Then, for the first time, I started hearing, 'Well, you don't fit in. Teachers with public opinions like that don't fit in.'"

Cooper-Dowda said she was also called a "religious wacko" on more than one occasion, even though she only mentioned her religious beliefs in passing during the interview.

"The principal, various teachers, my supervisor, aides, paraprofessionals, everyone was saying, 'Teachers aren't allowed to have opinions, especially about Terri Schiavo, and especially if you're already a seminary grad[uate],'" Cooper-Dowda alleged. "And I'm thinking, 'Wow! I thought this was America?"

The situation went from bad to worse, Cooper-Dowda claimed, when several copies of a booklet she had written detailing the similarities between her experience and that of Terri Schindler Schiavo appeared on campus. At age 30, the teacher contracted a severe case of lupus that left her unable to speak and with very little control over her motor functions. She listened helplessly as doctors incorrectly diagnosed her as being in a Persistent Vegetative State, the same condition some physicians believe afflicts Terri, and described her chances for recovery as "hopeless."

"I could hear all that," Cooper-Dowda recalled. "It took a huge effort to finally communicate, 'I'm in here!' And I barely survived."

Though she could not speak, Cooper-Dowda would use her finger to write the word "no" in the air when doctors discussed removing her life support. Those same doctors diagnosed her attempts to communicate as "seizure activity" and sedated her. According to Cooper-Dowda, the harder she tried to communicate with her caretakers, the more heavily she was sedated.

The curiosity of one nurse saved Cooper-Dowda's life, she said.

"She refused to believe that the systematic pattern of tapping and blinking and moving and moaning was not communication," Cooper-Dowda recalled. "So, when I went to Terri Schiavo's October 2002 hearing ... I saw the videos for the first time and I was writing about it and I thought, 'That could have been me,' and then I thought, 'Oh, it was me!'"

That nurse put ink on the incapacitated woman's fingertip. Cooper-Dowda was then able to write the letter "y" for the word "yes," and "n" for "no," proving that the doctors had been wrong about her condition.

Since then, Cooper-Dowda has completed a second master's degree and given birth to a son, who is about to enter college. She told CNSNews.com that after 25 years of teaching at private schools, she finally realized her dream of working with disabled students in a public school system. She began work at Bay Point Middle School on Aug. 1.

But after the television interview and the unexpected arrival of her writing about Terri Schiavo's case appeared on campus, Cooper-Dowda said it became almost impossible to do the job she so loved.

"After that I couldn't get the most accepted basic support like needed room supplies, memos about meetings, campus police help when any of my kids needed to be removed for violence or assistance for students hurting themselves regularly," Cooper-Dowda alleged. "Finally, I was given less than a day to hand deliver a resignation for 'personal reasons' or be fired for 'not fitting in.'"

Ron Stone, associate superintendent for human resources and public affairs for Pinellas County Schools, told CNSNews.com that Cooper-Dowda has no recourse other than Tuesday night's scheduled appeal to the board.

"She is a probationary employee and under Florida law all teachers are hired under a 97-day probationary contract as at-will employees and at any point during that 97-day period, the principal can make a recommendation to discontinue the probation," Stone explained. "Essentially, that's what's happened here, and we don't have to have reasons for that."

Cooper-Dowda believes that her termination is being expedited to make sure that it is completed before her probation expires, but she has been in contact with several public interest law firms who say that the appeals process will move her past the probationary period and make her eligible for the protections afforded to regular staff teachers.

She also said Wednesday morning that the Florida Department of Education is investigating her firing at the request of the governor's office.

The Pinellas County School Board meeting, at which Cooper-Dowda was fired, was telecast live on the local cable system. Because of the abbreviated holiday programming schedule, it's expected that the meeting will be replayed several times over the next four to six weeks.

"They threatened me with this. They said, 'If you don't resign for personal reasons, you're gonna get fired over and over and over' because the school board meeting runs on TV through the December holidays when everyone turns to them for the student concerts," Cooper-Dowda alleged. "They thought I would go, 'Oh, geez, I'd better resign.'

"Instead, I went, 'If Terri's supporters talk, their witness is going to run over and over and over through December," Cooper-Dowda said cheerfully. "There's a reason this is happening to me."

Cooper-Dowda hopes the public and media focus will quickly shift from her story to Terri's plight, but she acknowledges that the altercation with Pinellas County school officials has changed her life forever.

"I'm going to be so sad. I've wanted to be a public school teacher since I was five and I finally got in, in August. It took me 43 years to get here," Cooper-Dowda said. "I probably will not teach again."

33 posted on 02/15/2005 12:18:51 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover
Thanks for your posts. Cooper-Dowda's story is so sad.
34 posted on 02/15/2005 12:59:35 AM PST by Concerned (RATS can't win unless they LIE, CHEAT and/or STEAL!!!)
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To: Concerned

There seems to be a shift against our handicapped of late...I am so infuriated I can barely type.


35 posted on 02/15/2005 2:41:38 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: amdgmary
In May of 1992, at the apex of the romance, Schiavo had Terri’s 2 pet cats euthanized to clear the way for his moving in with Cindy and her pet dog.

He had Terri's cats killed just for a dog to move in? Most smaller dogs actually get along with cats. Some of the bigger dogs, like ours kill cats and would kill ours. Fortunately, we have this thing called a backyard. Somebody call PETA!

I guess Terri's wishes were to have her pets killed off too.

36 posted on 03/23/2005 11:51:31 AM PST by pulaskibush
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