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To: curiosity
Okay then, this is another point that has not been addressed in this discussion. The Bible talks about the Earth being without form in the beginning. Hence this mass that you are talking about. So, by one of Newton's laws, the reaction that caused this expansion must have had a cause.

Please note: There are some arguments floating around the Internet that try to prove that the beginning of the universe is without cause. This indicates a being capable of defying the laws of physics. Also, the arguments that I have read never really prove that things can happen spontaneously.

I am not convinced that actions can occur spontaneously, and quite frankly, assuming that the laws of physics can behave differently without a god, takes a greater "leap of faith," than most people who do believe in a god.
31 posted on 02/17/2005 12:51:52 PM PST by conservative_crusader (The voice of truth, tells me a different story. The voice of truth says do not be afraid.)
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To: conservative_crusader
Well, here you've also got some problems. It's well known that Newton's Laws aren't obeyed at the quantum level. And there are in fact particles that spontaneously come into and out of existence. So...
32 posted on 02/17/2005 9:17:37 PM PST by curiosity
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