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To: T.L.Sink; Earthdweller
Your vast array of statistics is very interesting...

I actually didn't write this, but I did find it interesting as an attempt to estimate the future percentages in France and elsewhere in Europe that will be Muslim. There is a lot of alarming talk about this, but so far not much in the way of hard numbers. If anyone else has seen any projection of future ethnic/religious population composition in Europe I would be interested in seeing them.

10 posted on 02/07/2005 8:18:14 AM PST by untenured
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To: untenured

I have read several articles in National Review over the
past several months but, most recently, I refer you to
the Dec. 2004 issue of Commentary and the article by
David Pryce-Jones, "The Islamization of Europe". Pryce-
Jones also wrote an excellent book, "The Closed Circle:
an Interpretation of the Arabs". It's difficult to
extrapolate future population growth of the Islamists
with great accuracy but given the rapidly declining birth-
rates of the EUROs and the large and steady influx of
Islamists the picture looks bleak for the natives. You
may have thought my comparison to our illegal sunami
was spurious but I see many parallels. We have, of course,
a population approaching 300 million so we can deal with
the problem better than the EUROs. Still, there is a very
serious problem with the massive influx of a subcultural
group that, at this point, is not being assimilated
(partly at their own desire, partly because of our many
PC absurdities re: multiculturalism). Part of the difficulty with making extrapolations is that we don't
even know how many are here! Recently, National Review
had an article (I think it was in the 12/31/04 issue)
saying that there is now every indication that the usually
cited 8-11 million illegals is more like 18-21 million!
And this in an age of international terrorism!


12 posted on 02/07/2005 1:32:02 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: untenured
You can use these as two studies as your baselines..


(Not sure which University did the study but I believe it was in the UK late 2004..don't hold me to it.)

Num. of Muslims in the U.S.: 7 million

Num. of American Muslims associated with a mosque: 2 million

Num. of mosques in the U.S.: 1,209

% of regular mosque participants who are male: 75%

% of regular mosque participants who are African-American: 30%

% of regular mosque participants who are Arab: 25%

Source: "The Mosque in America: A National Portrait," a study conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Hartford Institute for Religion Research (April 26, 2001)

I did see some studies on the rate of immigration in france and the rate of birth of native french vs Islamic immigrants but I will have to dig them up.

15 posted on 02/07/2005 2:30:47 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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