Posted on 01/28/2005 6:45:05 AM PST by blackminorcapullets
I heard about it from Mishah first, and then it was on yesterday's NTV evening news: a Russian-language web portal called the Russian National Literary Network has issued a "Directive on Limiting the Themes of Literary Works."
The Directive mainly concerns two of the Network's writing sites, Proza.ru (prose) and Stihi.ru (poetry). At a glance, the sites resemble a cross between Zoetrope.com and LiveJournal.com, inviting aspiring authors to post their work for review by other members. As of 9 pm today, Proza.ru has 22,313 members, 188,457 stories and 277,077 reviews; Stihi.ru lists 67,115 members, 1,609,066 poems and 2,132,558 reviews.
Even though today Dmitriy Kravchuk, the Network's coordinator and the author of the Directive, has postponed the implementation of the Directive "due to the negative reaction of the literary community and the discovery of a number of shortcomings," its text still appears online.
Here's its translation:
The Directive on limiting the themes of literary works published on the Internet resources of the Russian National Literary Network
1. On the Internet resources of the RNLN it is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages covering the following themes:
- The special operation of the Russian troops in the Chechen Republic during 1991-2004 [actually, the so-called "special operation" officially began on Dec. 11, 1994, not in 1991...]
- Terrorist acts against citizens of the Russian Federation
- Opposition of certain citizen groups to implementation of the Laws of the RF and the Decrees of the President of the RF (in particular, the Law on Monetization of the Benefits [which has caused the Babushka Revolution]
2. On the Internet resources of of the RNLN it is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages, which include personal mentions (with the first or last name) of individuals belonging to one of the categories of the Class A public officials (in accordance with Appendix 1). At the same time, it is allowed to mention the individual's title, as long as this mention is connected with the execution of state functions and not with his personal qualities [sic].
3. On the Internet resources of of the RNLN it is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages, which include mentions in a negative context of the Class B public officials (in accordance with Appendix 2). A negative context is the identification of the mentioned individual as a negative literary hero by literary experts affiliated with the RNLN.
4. On the Internet resources of of the RNLN it is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages, which include mentions in a positive context of the Class C individuals (in accordance with Appendix 3). A positive context is the identification of the mentioned individual as a positive literary hero by literary experts affiliated with the RNLN.
Literary works with content prohibited by this Directive will have to be deleted by their authors before Feb. 1, 2005. If the works containing the prohibited content are discovered after Feb. 1, 2005, the site's moderators are obliged to block the pages and all works of these authors without the possibilty of renewing [membership] later.
Organizational Committee of the Russian National Literary Network
Appendix 1. Categories of the Class A public officials.
It is forbidden to publish literary works, which include personal mentions (first or last name) of individuals belonging to the following categories:
- President of the RF and members of his family - Head of the government and ministers of the RF - Members of the Federation Councils [sic] of the Federal Assembly of the RF - Deputies of the State Duma of the RF who are members of the United Russia faction [the pro-Putin majority in the Russian Parliament] - Governors of the federal centers of the RF - Mayors of the cities of the RF
Appendix 2. Categories of the Class B public officials.
It is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages, which include mentions in a negative context of individuals belonging to the following categories:
- Heroes of Russia - Heroes of the Soviet Union, who received this title during the Great Patriotic War - Serving officers of the Russian Army, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Federal Security Service, Federal Guards Service, Intelligence Service in the rank higher than the Colonel and First-Rank Captain (inclusive) - Representatives of the RF state on duty - Members of the United Russia Party and the Walking Together public movement [a pro-Putin youth organization]
Appendix 2. Categories of the Class C individuals.
It is forbidden to publish literary works and forum messages, which include mentions in a positive context of individuals belonging to the following categories:
- Individuals wanted by the federal authorities on charges of plotting terrorist acts against RF citizens - Individuals killed as the result of special operations of the Russian troops in the Chechen Republic, those who resisted or were accused of plotting terrorist acts against citizens of the RF - Individuals charged with involvement in international terrorist organizations - State authorities and soldiers of the Fascist Germany of the Great Patriotic War period, as well as individuals who collaborated with the Fascist Germany
After wasting an hour translating this, I'm more or less speechless. The only thing I can say is that this once again confirms my view that Stalin was ourselves, in a way, and Putin is ourselves, too.
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And here's a translation of a wonderful poem one of the members of Stihi.ru has recently posted on the site:
PRESIDENT by Thinkerbell
PutinPutinPutinPoo! PutinPutinPutinPoo! Poopoopoo! Poopoopoo! PutinPutinPutinPoo!
© Copyright: Thinkerbell, 2005 Code: 1501261784
I'm hoping your saying this injest and not seriously answering my post.
"To say, if you want to find Scythian blood,"
If I want to find blood in Ukraine, why go back to ancient history?
The Kremlin shed 15 million lives worth in just the past 80 years.
"All of us are US military vets"
Yes and I must assume you worked in intelligence as your knowledge of Russian history is very proficient. I also see that your into christianity and rascism.
"You accuse all of us of everything under the sun and insult our honor. "
Really, I thought all my posts were to do that to the Kremlin (with which you seem to take collective umbrage).
"This is why many of the posters ignore your banal ravings"
Is that what you did to this string which I originated and to which you sought to censure?.
So which rear sight did you prefer on the m14?
As for racism, you are full of hot air and as usual grasping for straws.
And where did I try to censor your thread? Try again, bright boy.
"As for racism, you are full of hot air"
You have Alzheimers too?
Last week you said all Chinese live in sewers.
so did you prefer the open sight or peep sight on the m14
Once again what I said and once again to prove you are full of piss and no vinegar.
Moscow scraps Stalin statue plan amid protests
Posted by jb6 to blackminorcapullets
On News/Activism 01/21/2005 11:29:56 PM PST · 81 of 102
"How do people who live in such poverty and sewage breed so quickly"
And you are a rascist too
I'm going to break my policy of ignoring your juvenile arse just this once. You are about as sharp as a bag of marbles.
Stating that fact that most of China lives in abject poverty and that the rivers and air are polluted beyond belief and that the breed quickly, since they are the most populace people in the world, regardless of the government abortion laws, is not racism, it's stating facts. Only someone with a low IQ looking to pick a fight, like some little self absorbed brat, would write some crap rubbish like that.
Now, that being said, I'm not wasting anymore time or effort on some adolescent brat. Bugger off.
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Once again what I said and once again to prove you are full of piss and no vinegar.
Moscow scraps Stalin statue plan amid protests
Posted by jb6 to blackminorcapullets
On News/Activism 01/21/2005 11:29:56 PM PST · 81 of 102
"How do people who live in such poverty and sewage breed so quickly"
And you are a rascist too
I'm going to break my policy of ignoring your juvenile arse just this once. You are about as sharp as a bag of marbles.
Stating that fact that most of China lives in abject poverty and that the rivers and air are polluted beyond belief and that the breed quickly, since they are the most populace people in the world, regardless of the government abortion laws, is not racism, it's stating facts. Only someone with a low IQ looking to pick a fight, like some little self absorbed brat, would write some crap rubbish like that.
Now, that being said, I'm not wasting anymore time or effort on some adolescent brat. Bugger off.
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I absolutely despise his rantings especially when he starts up on a CHURCH for goodness sake. AND... if he even writes the name 'Reagan'!! I am really seriously angry.
When Putin made that speech at Auschwitz about how ashamed he was that Russia also had a history of persecution of the Jews and how he would NOT tolerate it happening again... WELL.... I think Ron Reagan would have stood up and loudly cheered him.
Ron was a very fine man. He and Nancy comforted Rock Hudson when many folks in the country were very snide and snickering about Rock's disease and how he came about having it. The Reagans were a class operation!! GOD BLESS THEM.
The thing is.... I read many of the speeches in the media from the different leaders who went to Auschwitz. I NEVER read one WORD from the new Ukrainian President about how ashamed he was that some of his Roman Catholic countrymen supported the nazis by being guards at many nazi concentration camps. One has to wonder why?
This anti-Russian poster we have found trolling here on FR has made just too many comments on the Orthodox Church that are very, very hateful. He has no authority to knock ANY Church.... unless he is PERFECT. He isn't! He must be an atheist.
THE COLD WAR IS OVER. AMERICANS ARE NO LONGER LOOKING FOR A BOMB SHELTER AND TEACHING THE KIDS TO "DUCK AND COVER" 'cause the big bad commies area after us!!
The little troll, try as he might, IS NOT GOING TO BRING BACK THE COLD WAR. It is over, kaput.... gone with wind!!
He needs to MOVE-ON and find somebody else to pester with his idiot postings.
"The thing is.... I read many of the speeches in the media from the different leaders who went to Auschwitz. I NEVER read one WORD from the new Ukrainian President about how ashamed he was that some of his Roman Catholic countrymen supported the nazis by being guards at many nazi concentration camps. One has to wonder why? "
Yushchenko is Ukrainian Orthodox - the orthodox church that did not tell its faithful for whom to vote.
And you need not remind President Yushchenko of Nazi terror at Aushwitz - Yushchenko's father is a survivor of that death camp unlike the millions of Ukrainians that perished in those camps.
You do need to remind us of the toll of the Kremlin on Ukraine - the Genociedes of 1921 and 1932 are the Big Bang from which Hitler and WWII and the Cold War eminated.
So which did you prefer on the M14 when you were in Nam - peep or open sights?
That would be because UNA-UNSO, his body guards, are their grand kids and are carrying on the traditions.
I'm with you...these guys will defend Putin/KGB/Russian Mafia no matter what. Can't vouch for your article because I don't read Russian...but it fits in with most other things I've been finding out about "Russia." If you have a ping list, please include me (I'll put you on mine as well if you like). Keep up the good work.
You've probably read the following National Review article by now, but I thought I'd post it for good measure:
September 20, 2004, 8:14 a.m.
No Peter the Great
Vladimir Putin is in the Andropov mold.
By Ion Mihai Pacepa
Vladimir Putin looks more and more like a heavy-handed imitation of Yuri Andropov does anyone still remember him? Andropov was that other KGB chairman who rose all the way up to the Kremlin throne, and who was also once my de facto boss. Considering that Putin has inherited upwards of 6,000 suspected strategic nuclear weapons, this is frightening news.
Former KGB officers are now running Russia's government, just as they did during Andropov's reign, and the Kremlin's image another Andropov specialty continues to be more important than people's real lives in that still-inscrutable country. The government's recent catastrophic Beslan operation was a reenactment of the effort to "rescue" 2,000 people from Moscow's Dubrovka Theater, where the "new" KGB flooded the hall with fentanyl gas and caused the death of 129 hostages. No wonder Putin ordered Andropov's statue which had been removed after the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 reinstalled at the Lubyanka.
In the West, if Andropov is remembered at all, it is for his brutal suppression of political dissidence at home and for his role in planning the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia. By contrast, the leaders of the former Warsaw Pact intelligence community, when I was one of them, looked up to Andropov as the man who substituted the KGB for the Communist party in governing the Soviet Union, and who was the godfather of Russia's new era of deception operations aimed at improving the badly damaged image of Soviet rulers in the West.
In early 2000, President Putin divided Russia into seven "super" districts, each headed by a "presidential representative," and he gave five of these seven new posts to former KGB officers. Soon, his KGB colleagues occupied nearly 50 percent of the top government positions in Moscow. In a brief interview with Ted Koppel on Nightline, Putin admitted that he had stuffed the Kremlin with former KGB officers, but he said it was because he wanted to root out graft. "I have known them for many years and I trust them. It has nothing to do with ideology. It's simply a matter of their professional qualities and personal relationship."
THE NATIONAL POLITICAL PASTIME
In reality, it's an old Russian tradition to fill the most important governmental positions with undercover intelligence officers. The czarist Okhrana security service planted its agents everywhere: in the central and local government, and in political parties, labor unions, churches, and newspapers. Until 1913, Pravda itself was edited by one of them, Roman Malinovsky, who rose to become Lenin's deputy for Russia and the chairman of the Bolshevik faction in the Duma.
Andropov Sovietized that Russian tradition and extended its application nationwide. It was something similar to militarizing the government in wartime, but it was accomplished by the KGB. In 1972, when he launched this new offensive, KGB Chairman Andropov told me that this would help eliminate the current plague of theft and bureaucratic chaos and would combat the growing sympathy for American jazz, films, and blue jeans obsessing the younger Soviet generation. Andropov's new undercover officers were secretly remunerated with tax-free salary supplements and job promotions. In exchange, Andropov explained, they would secretly have to obey "our" military regulations, practice "our" military discipline and carry out "our" tasks, if they wanted to keep their jobs. Of course, the KGB had long been using diplomatic cover slots for its officers assigned abroad, but Andropov's new approach was designed to influence the Soviet Union itself.
The lines separating the leadership of the country from the intelligence apparatus had blurred in the Soviet satellites as well. After I was granted political asylum in the United States in July 1978, the Western media reported that my defection had unleashed the greatest political purge in the history of Communist Romania. Ceausescu had demoted politburo members, fired one-third of his cabinet, and replaced ambassadors. All were undercover intelligence officers whose military documents and pay vouchers I had regularly signed off on.
THE MAKING OF A DICTATOR
General Aleksandr Sakharovsky, the Soviet gauleiter of Romania who rose to head the Soviet foreign intelligence service for an unprecedented 15 years, used to predict to me that KGB Chairman Andropov would soon have the whole Soviet bloc in his vest pocket, and that he would surely end up in the Kremlin. Andropov would have to wait ten years until Brezhnev died, but on November 12, 1982, he did take up the country's reins. Once settled in the Kremlin, Andropov surrounded himself with KGB officers, who immediately went on a propaganda offensive to introduce him to the West as a "moderate" Communist and a sensitive, warm, Western-oriented man who allegedly enjoyed an occasional drink of Scotch, liked to read English novels, and loved listening to American jazz and the music of Beethoven. In actual fact, Andropov did not drink, as he was already terminally ill from a kidney disorder, and the rest of the portrayal was equally false.
In 1999, when Putin became prime minister, he also surrounded himself with KGB officers, who began describing him as a "Europeanized" leader capitalizing, ironically, on the fact that he had been a KGB spy abroad. Yet Putin's only foreign experience had been in East Germany, on Moscow's side of the Berlin Wall. Soon after that I visited the Stasi headquarters in Leipzig and Dresden to see where Putin had spent his "Europeanizing" years. Local representatives of the Gauck Commission a special post-Communism German panel researching the Stasi files said that the "Soviet-German 'friendship house'" Putin headed for six years was actually a KGB front with operational offices at the Leipzig and Dresden Stasi headquarters. Putin's real task was to recruit East German engineers as KGB agents and send them to the West to steal American technologies.
I visited those offices and found that they looked just like the offices of my own midlevel case officers in regional Securitate directorates in Romania. Yet Moscow claims Putin had held an important job in East Germany and was decorated by the East German government. The Gauck Commission confirmed that Putin was decorated in 1988 "for his KGB work in the East German cities of Dresden and Leipzig." According to the West German magazine Der Spiegel, he received a bronze medal from the East German Stasi as a "typical representative of second-rank agents." There, in those prison-like buildings, cut off even from real East German life by Stasi guards with machine guns and police dogs, Lieutenant Colonel Putin could not possibly have become the modern-day, Western-oriented Peter the Great that the Kremlin's propaganda machine is so energetically spinning.
Indeed, on December 20, 1999, Russia's newly appointed prime minister visited the Lubyanka to deliver a speech on this "memorable day," commemorating Lenin's founding of the first Soviet political police, the Cheka. "Several years ago we fell prey to the illusion that we have no enemies," Putin told a meeting of top security officials. "We have paid dearly for this. Russia has its own national interests, and we have to defend them." The following day, December 21, 1999, another "memorable day" in Soviet history Stalin's 120th birthday Putin organized a closed-door reception in his Kremlin office reported as being for the politicians who had won seats in the Duma. There he raised a glass to good old Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin, meaning "man of steel," was the dictator's nom de guerre).
Days later, in a 14-page article entitled "Russia on the Threshold of a New Millennium," Putin defined Russia's new "democratic" future: "The state must be where and as needed; freedom must be where and as required." The Chechens' effort to regain their independence was mere "terrorism," and he pledged to eradicate it: "We'll get them anywhere if we find terrorists sitting in the outhouse, then we will piss on them there. The matter is settled." It is not.
SCAPEGOATING AND CONSOLIDATING
On September 9, 2004, Chechen nationalists announced a $20 million prize on the head of the "war criminal" Vladimir Putin, whom they accuse of "murdering hundreds of thousands of peaceful civilians on the territory of Chechnya, including tens of thousands of children."
For his part, President Putin tried to divert the outrage over the horrific Breslan catastrophe away from his KGB colleagues who had caused it, and to direct public anger toward the KGB's archenemy, the U.S. Citing meetings of mid-level U.S. officials with Chechen leaders, Putin accused Washington of having a double standard when dealing with terrorism. "Why don't you meet Osama bin Laden, invite him to Brussels or to the White House and engage in talks, ask him what he wants and give it to him so he leaves you in peace?" Putin told reporters in Moscow.
Then Putin blamed the collapse of the Soviet Union for what he called a "full scale" terrorist war against Russia and started taking Soviet-style steps to strengthen the Kremlin's power. On September 13, he announced measures to eliminate the election of the country's governors, who should now be appointed by the Kremlin, and to allow only "certified" people that is, former KGB officers to run for the parliament.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, its people had a unique opportunity to cast out their political police, a peculiarly Russian instrument of power that has for centuries isolated their country from the real world and in the end left them ill-equipped to deal with the complexities of modern society. Unfortunately, up until then most Russians had never owned property, had never experienced a free-market economy, and had never made decisions for themselves. Under Communism they were taught to despise Western democracy and everything they believed to be connected with capitalism, e.g., free enterprise, decision-making, hard work, risk-taking, and social inequality. Moreover, the Russians had also had minimal experience with real political parties, since their country has been a police state since the 16th century. To them, it seemed easier to continue the tradition of the political police state than to take the risk of starting everything anew.
But the times have changed dramatically. My native country, which borders Russia, is a good example. At first, Romania's post-Communism rulers, for whom managing the country with the help of the political police was the only form of government they had ever known, bent over backwards to preserve the KGB-created Securitate, a criminal organization that became the symbol of Communist tyranny in the West. Article 27 of Romania's 1990 law for organizing the new intelligence services stated that only former Securitate officers "who have been found guilty of crimes against fundamental human rights and against freedom" could not be employed in the "new" intelligence services. In other words, only Ceausescu would not have been eligible for employment there. Today, Romania still has the same president as in 1990, but his country is now a member of NATO and is helping the U.S. to rid the world of Cold War-style dictators and the terrorism they generated.
Russia can also break with its Communist past and join our fight against despots and terrorists. We can help them do it, but first we should have a clear understanding of what is now going on behind the veil of secrecy that still surrounds the Kremlin.
Ion Mihai Pacepa, a former two-star general, is the highest-ranking intelligence officer to have defected from the Soviet bloc. His book Red Horizons has been republished in 27 countries.
Link:
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/comment/pacepa200409200814.asp
YOU are an idiot.
Read the threads...very interesting and entertaining--TTS
That's right. It's more of the chicken little crowd yellin that the sky is falling. The site is private, it's part of a private, non-governmental organization. A Russian could say the same thing about this site after reading our rules.
Actually, Hitler refered to the Turkish-Ottoman genocide against Armenia when refering to his plans to exterminate Jews.
"Do you really think the average russian respects the "poor little coutries in eastern europe" the ones they ruthlessly bludgeoned into submission for so many years? "
The average Russian knows and respects countries in Eastern Europe more than most Americans. How many average Russians do you know? How many Americans travel to Eastern Europe as opposed to Russians? Believe it or not, the majority of Russians are not as hate-filled as you are. You and TTS remind me of the General in Dr. Strangelove. Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Russians want to steal our precious bodily fluids. Try to get a grip on your paranoia. Actually, you guys really remind me of the hate-filled old Soviets that I encounter from time-to-time. Filled with vitriol and see nothing but evil in the US. Maybe you guys should hook up.
Once again I must point out that you are quoting with great reverence a Communist thug who was in the employ of Ceaucescau in Romania. He defected after falling out of power and just like most high-level defectors rewrote his own history so that people like you will hang on his every word. If you are looking for 5th columnists look no further than people like Pacepa, Senja, and Kalugin.
"I'm with you...these guys will defend Putin/KGB/Russian Mafia no matter what. Can't vouch for your article because I don't read Russian...but it fits in with most other things I've been finding out about "Russia." If you have a ping list, please include me (I'll put you on mine as well if you like). Keep up the good work."
Do you even believe the crap you post? "I have no idea what it said, but I agree with you since you claim it says something bad." That site is exercizing its right as a private site to moderate and control the content of its publications and members. Strange - we can do that here in the US, but if a Russian follows our lead they're somehow calling for the return of the Red Bear? So, I guess you'll have no problem with DU-ers posting openly and freely here? You'll have no problem with them disparaging our government, our President, and our Armed Forces? Because that's what you're saying by calling into question this Russian private website's right to moderate.
What exactly did Pacepa say in his book "Red Horizons" that you can difinitively refute??? I have learned much from defectors, especially Anatoly Golitsyn. Almost every one of Golitsyn's predictions have come true. Everyone else was caught of guard by the "collapse" of the Soviet Union, but not him. As for Pacepa, I have read and re-read his book and it squares with everything else I know about Romania/Soviet Union/PLO etc. My only problem with Pacepa is he wont come out and openly confirm the Golitsyn revelations (which I'm pretty sure he knows to be true...but he would have to completely break with the CIA and the publishing world to do so). Kalugin is a different story. He truly is a 5th Columnist.
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