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The Islamic World: Separating Facts from lies and devising measures based on those facts

Posted on 12/28/2004 12:22:11 AM PST by james beam

Islamic leaders blame terror on poverty; while in reality, the facts speak to the contrary.

Islamic terror and WMD pursuits have either been the hobby of oil rich countries like Iran, Libya, or Saudi Arabia or aid rich countries like the Pakistan-Afghanistan region. Osama Bin laden again seems to be a very rich financier.

WMDs, terror, and large armies are an extremely expensive hobby that only the rich can afford.

Furthermore it would take an educated lot to run such establishments. I doubt if poor or uneducated people could travel to the West, learn to fly planes or make bombs.

You wouldn?t find poor Africa exporting terror or indulging in WMD pursuits, because they simply don?t have the finances to do so. You wouldn?t find Bangladesh or Ethiopia indulging in these pursuits either because they just can?t afford it.

You would also find the Pakistan-Afghanistan region struggling to survive and make ends meet before they ran into Soviet, Islamic and Western monies that turned the region into a terror hatchery.

Vietnam, Libya and Syria robbed of their economic might through decades of sanctions are no longer a threat because they no longer have the funds to indulge in mischief and their populations are tired of the hardships they have to go through to just survive. In other words these countries have been de-energized and robbed of their militant sentiment through economic hardships.

The Soviet Union was brought down through the force of technology transfer and higher education restrictions that left it decades behind in terms of technology, rendering its machinery obsolete and robbing its economy of the potential to compete. Similar measures would work against Islamic terror sponsors and terror groups as well.

When you look at some of the politically correct notions of today, you can?t help laughing at the magnitude of Islamic lies.

The non-industrial Islamic world is going to provide the industrial world with its skilled labor. Countries responsible for all your modern inventions don?t have technical skills; whereas rag heads riding donkey carts are your computer experts LOL. Islamic barbarians with nothing to show for in terms of either industrial development or respect for human rights are going to enlighten the West which has had millenniums of civilization manifest in the most industrialized economies and the most humane societies.

The quality of manpower of a country or the skills of its individuals are best evidenced in the technological or industrial development of that particular country, the work and business ethics of its people are collectively expressed in the state of its economy; whereas the mindset of its people is best expressed in terms of the society?s respect for other individuals, particularly the weak such as the minorities.

In the Islamic World Industry is sparse, technology is non-existent, and research unheard of; that would put to rest the myth of skilled Islamic labor. Islamic economies that are not subsidized with massive oil revenues are under burgeoning foreign debt because of rampant corruption and widespread inefficiencies; now this speaks volumes of their ethics. Islamic societies indulge in organized cruelty against both their own people and the world outside; this is manifest in stoning their people to death and amputating their limbs for imagined offenses, and terror against the world outside; the only peaceful Islamic societies are those in which the state dispenses enough cruelty to make up for the restraint exercised by its citizens.

Islamic school systems are such that they never impart any learning. Right from kindergarten and all the way through college, Islamic schools emphasize memorizing over understanding; as a result their students are completely devoid of all analytical and reasoning skills, they can only regurgitate or plagiarize.

In short the Muslims are devoid of all skills and generously armed with vices such as crooks, bulls, and lies to make up for their short fall in skills. There is nothing positive these individuals can contribute to the world. This is best evidenced in the destruction and misery that Islam has brought to the world in 1400 years of its existence.

Western Intelligence effort against the Islamic world has also been a disaster largely because of these Islamic character traits. Muslims have very strong loyalties to Islam, are completely devoid of integrity, and lack constructive intelligence because of which Western effort against the Islamic world has never succeeded

The Islamic effort against the Soviets turned into Al-Qaeda; while that against Saddam seems to have turned into the insurgency.

In my opinion the only measures that have prevented terror so far, have been macro measures that threatened the very survival of Islamic terror sponsors and promised adverse consequences for Islamic communities in the West in terms of job losses and deportations.

It seems that having seen the fate of the Taliban and Saddam; Islamic terror sponsors seem to have somewhat reigned in their terrorists. They might have diverted them into Iraq though. Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia need to realize that if the insurgency in Iraq gets out of hand, the US would break these countries up the same way the Soviet Union was broken up before them.

The Iraqi people need to realize that unless they reject the insurgents; Iraq could end up like Vietnam, starved and impoverished. They have to realize that Islamic terror sponsors have turned Iraq into a battle ground to save their own countries. These terror sponsors are sacrificing Iraq to save themselves, while the Iraqis can?t seem to see this. The Iraqis have to realize that the West doesn?t have to rebuild Iraq; they west could simply isolate it and bomb into the stone ages. If the Iraqis want a future for their children they have to stand up to these insurgents and prevent them from doing to Iraq, what these terror sponsors have in the past done to Lebanon and Afghanistan. Unless the Iraqis stand up to these insurgents and refuse them shelter, they would be robbing their children of a future and sentencing them to decades of misery.

Islamic communities within the West need to realize that any terror attacks against the West would mean job losses and deportations for Islamic communities in those countries. Islamic communities that harbor terrorists need to realize that sponsorship of terror would mean economic hardships to an extent that would rob these communities of the financial muscle to sustain that Islamic thought. Muslims within Western Intelligence should be pushed out of the roles of policy makers, analysts, translators, and agent operators. They should be replaced with Western Linguists to prevent the Muslims from commandeering Western Institutions with their own agenda. Secular secessionists should again replace Islamists as Western allies within Islamic societies. These should again be quarantined from one another to prevent them from forming a lobby or sharing information, and should be closely monitored with Latino and other Western supervisors who could blend into Islamic societies to closely supervise them.

A good intelligence set up is one with a one way flow; that is policy should flow down, while information should flow up. Information flowing down would make low level Islamic operatives privy to Western rifts, limitations and fears which they could then manipulate to their advantage with terror groups; while policy moving up would enable Muslims to force their own agenda on Western institutions.

To change the Islamic world; they have to be first stripped of their Islamic values through economic hardships similar to those put in place to change the militant Vietnamese and Libyan mindsets. These Muslims have to be then brought up with secular Western values that emphasize respect for human life and the rights of others. This social change should precede any economic development of the Islamic world, so as to avoid re-enforcing inhuman Islamic values and practices.

The Islamic world has to be de-Islamized and humanized before they can be trusted with modern Industrial might.

Meanwhile all the political and economic clout within Islamic countries should be taken away from the Islamists and put firmly in the hands of secular secessionists to set the Islamic countries on a course for social change. This change should incorporate the outlawing of Islamic parties, schools and businesses, and a secularization of their media and curriculum. Meanwhile the economies of these countries should be geared towards raw material and non tech exports, so as to keep their populace busy with jobs but at the same time prevent them from amassing an industrial might with which they could threaten the world outside. Any countries that resist this change should be meted out the Vietnam and Libya treatment Finally large Islamic countries should be carved into small ethnic states robbed of both their Islamic sentiment and means to pursue terror or WMDs.


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1 posted on 12/28/2004 12:22:11 AM PST by james beam
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To: james beam
In a nutshell, Islamic states must 1) teach more math, science, and business and less Wahhabism 2) be open and want to become part of the world community rather than try to destroy it 3) allow 50% of their population (females) to become full, productive members of society. With that approach, they may be able to progress out of the 1100's and into the 21st century.
2 posted on 12/29/2004 12:44:06 AM PST by JB_Nole
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To: JB_Nole
'Splain Latin America?
3 posted on 12/29/2004 12:49:40 AM PST by investigateworld ((! ))
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To: JB_Nole

The Islamic world doesn't need to teach science and math; they have made WMDs with those each time in the past.

The Islamic world needs to focus on social sciences to turn their people into humans before they can be trusted with science and math.


4 posted on 01/01/2005 2:49:29 PM PST by james beam
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