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To: CaptIsaacDavis
You draw an inference that is not supported.

I'm drawing an inference that's not supported?

So are you saying that Kerik -- the NYC Police Commissioner -- was certain to have been kept 100% out of the loop of even vague strategic threat assessments (like the Aug. 6 PDB) and chatter?

No I didn't say that. The article didn't say that either.The article says;

Pro-Israel. On an oddly-timed trip to Israel only a little more than a week before 9/11, he spoke on the subject of terrorism with Public Security Minister Uzi Landau and Police Chief Shlomo Aharonishki and sought to, in Kerik’s words reported publicly:"demonstrate my deep solidarity with the State of Israel." (http://www.ourjerusalem.com/news/story/news20010902.html). The trip was "oddly-timed" because sometime that summer it was hurriedly pushed up to around Labor Day after originally being scheduled for early October (which might have significance in light of various reports of uncertain accuracy about an Israeli warning about the looming attack and/or activities just before 9/11 in the city’s emergency command center in WTC Tower 7 [movements of equipment in particular]).

If the writer of the article meant to imply that Mr.Kerik learned of a threat through regular channels and just happened to visit Israel earlier that year he failed miserably, because I just don't see that there. What I see there is a thinly veiled Zionist conspiracy theory expanded to include Bernard Kerik.

35 posted on 12/08/2004 12:47:08 AM PST by bad company (I'm a new Grandpa.)
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To: bad company

Pure fantasy...Just because Kerik was visiting Israel doesn't imply squat about "conspiracies." We cooperate all the time, and he was NYC Police Commissioner at that critical moment in history. Sharing intel is not "conspiracy." There is a story out that Egypt warned us. So just by saying that I'm advancing an Egyptian conspiracy theory?

There is a reasonable middle ground that is worth exploring. The "inference" implied that even suggesting Kerik had strategic warning -- even though the White House admits that at least hundreds of key government officials knew something was up (Aug. 6 PDB, all the FBI and CIA chatter and efforts, etc.) -- was itself tantamount to advancing some anti-Zionist "conspiracy" theory. In fact, the "black and white" alternative to that train of thought is that Kerik was kept out of the loop (the illogic holding that he must be to prevent even discussing "Zionist conspiracy" crap) is more problematic since one would have expected the chiefs in DC and NYC to be kept abreast of even NON-SPECIFIC strategic warnings. The truth is not always black and white.


36 posted on 12/08/2004 2:56:13 PM PST by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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