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To: PTBarnum

In spite of all your selective citations, you have failed to make one single point stick as to why APT won't work.

One does not prove a negative.

You have made the affirmative assertions here that it is the best thing since fried ochra for the United States, yet have offered no evidence of the validity of those claims as regard the effect of the APT on this nation. You merely made unfounded assurances and blown hot air with no substantiation in historical experience.

“He who asserts must also prove.” 
Artistotle

With no burden of proof upon me, I have in spite of the maxum, provided more than ample evidence of the invalidity of your claims, and of the dangers of the APT.

Now the burden lay wholly with you. To show in historical examples the validity of your claims that they will be realized in actual implementation in this nation. Thus far you have provided nothing that indicates your claims are anything but hot air.

You have failed to show any support whatsoever in Congress. Where the clear fact is the APT is does not even mention anywhere in the Congressional Record of the last eight sessions of Congress. One would think that such a wonderful tax as you describe would have sufficient support of even one Congress Critter to be mentioned at least once on the floors of Congress, or even engender at the introduction of one bill in support. Nada, zippo nutt'n out there.

With all the empirical evidence that I have been able to turn up, the APT has been shown to be little more than a fevered fantasy of a few academics with pretensions to grandeur. Unfortunately the clear evidence is that it has every capacity of the worst socialist schemes to destroy capitalist markets. Heck to all evidence the APT could not adequately fund even a short range goal, much less the continued operation of a national government of the size of the United States.

Unfortunately for those small nations that have improvidently implemented such a tax scheme, history and current experience is more than replete with the failures of transaction taxes to warn us away from such foolishiness.

387 posted on 12/16/2004 6:34:55 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer

All of this stuff you keep putting up to support your contention that APT is a bad idea frankly does not impress me. It rather suggests you have a little too much time on your hands. If one were so inclined, an equivalent amount of stuff could be brought up favoring the case for APT. I'm comfortable with APT based on common sense and intuition. As you've made amply obvious, you have a strong bias against APT. You seem to have a need to prove to yourself that you're right. I have no obligation to prove APT to you, any more than you have an obligation to disprove it. My point is that in spite of your very admirable effort in putting up all this stuff here for us to see, you have not convinced me personally that APT won't work. I see APT as an idea who's time has come, as we and our progeny need it. Fundamental tax reform is in order. The existing tax regimen is an ad hoc mixed bag of political and economic pragmatism, and is a relic of the now passing industrial era. APT is a fundamentally different approach that addresses the needs of the present and the future.


388 posted on 12/16/2004 8:54:02 PM PST by PTBarnum (Go To: APTTAX.COM)
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To: ancient_geezer

All of this stuff you keep putting up to support your contention that APT is a bad idea frankly does not impress me. It rather suggests you have a little too much time on your hands. If one were so inclined, an equivalent amount of stuff could be brought up favoring the case for APT. I'm comfortable with APT based on common sense and intuition. As you've made amply obvious, you have a strong bias against APT. You seem to have a need to prove to yourself that you're right. I have no obligation to prove APT to you, any more than you have an obligation to disprove it. My point is that in spite of your very admirable effort in putting up all this stuff here for us to see, you have not convinced me personally that APT won't work. I see APT as an idea who's time has come, as we and our progeny need it. Fundamental tax reform is in order. The existing tax regimen is an ad hoc mixed bag of political and economic pragmatism, and is a relic of the now passing industrial era. APT is a fundamentally different approach that addresses the needs of the present and the future.


389 posted on 12/16/2004 8:55:17 PM PST by PTBarnum (Go To: APTTAX.COM)
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