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DUmmie FUnnies 12-03-04 AM Edition (MORE Civil War!!!)
DUmmie FUnnies ^ | December 3, 2004 | DUmmies and PJ-Comix

Posted on 12/03/2004 6:10:40 AM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix

Bev Harris was just BANNED at DUmmyland!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x108750

Statement on the Bev Harris situation

Over the past two years Bev Harris has received a great deal of support from the members of Democratic Underground, in her research, publicity efforts, and fundraising. In return we have played host to an 18 month-long squabble between Ms. Harris and other verified voting activists, and have even been threatened with lawuits by Ms. Harris herself. Despite this, we have publicly remained mostly silent on the verified voting squabbles.

We believe verified voting is a topic of crucial importance, and have been uncomfortable taking sides on an issue which, frankly, we should all be on the same side of anyway. Therefore we have kept most of our correspondence with the various factions private and attempted to cool things down behind the scenes. Like all issues discussed at DU, we have tried to focus the discussion of verified voting on the topic at hand, and not on the personalities of the participants. However, in light of the recent troubles, we feel compelled to make a statement.

In 2003 Bev Harris, along with a few other verified voting activists, were banned from DU for engaging in personal squabbles on the message board after they were repeatedly instructed to stop. Around that time, Ms. Harris threatened us with a libel lawsuit, claiming that we could be held responsible for comments made by other message board members who doubted the credibility of her project. She never followed through on this threat and we never heard from her lawyers.

Ms. Harris was reinstated shortly afterwards, after agreeing to put an end to the problems that got her banned in the first place. Nonetheless, those problems periodically recurred after her reinstatement. A few weeks ago, Ms. Harris again used our website to threaten DU with lawsuits, in her postings, in private messages to other members, and in rude alerts she sent to the moderators.

We sent a message to Ms. Harris telling her to stop hassling our moderators and members, and informing her that if she had a legal concern, she needed to contact us directly. We also let her know that her continued participation on this message board was dependent upon her behavior. The legal threats stopped, but we received no response from either Ms. Harris or her lawyers.

This is our personal experience with Ms. Harris. We cannot confirm or deny the veracity of claims made by others, including many former colleagues, her former publisher, and Keith Olbermann. But we can confirm that the claims made by others about Ms. Harris are not inconsistent with our own experiences.

We have remained as patient as possible in our dealings with Ms. Harris because we believe that the topic of verified voting is a crucial one. We were prepared to sacrifice a certain amount of tranquility on the message board if verified voting was being discussed in a generally positive manner.

Ms. Harris's recent spat with Keith Olbermann has made positive discussion of verified voting increasingly difficult on DU. For over a year and a half, our members have been split into pro- and anti-Bev factions, and recent events have only exacerbated that division. Yet this morning Ms. Harris returned to DU and started posting as if nothing had happened, while making liberal use of the alert button to complain to the moderators about our enforcement of the message board rules. At this point our patience finally ran out.

The fact that the disruptions have continued, despite repeated warnings from the administrators, leaves us with no other option but to bar Bev Harris from posting on this website. We no longer believe that it is productive to allow her to use DU as a platform to promote herself while simultaneously trashing us, our moderators, and others who have been previously supportive of her cause.

We still remain firmly committed to promoting discussion of verified voting, and we wish Ms. Harris well in her efforts to shed light on this important issue. From now on, we encourage all of our members to focus on discussing the verified voting issue itself, rather than the personalities involved.


41 posted on 12/03/2004 11:34:17 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: SandyInSeattle
For comic relief. And to reinforce the reality that we are the sane ones.

If you use people like that as the standard, and grade on the curve, you set your goals unbeliveably low.

42 posted on 12/03/2004 11:42:02 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: MKM1960
"Sporks and eye bleach for everyone. That thread shows how the term Drama Queen came into existence.LOL.....anymore than I want to see the Leather contingent ....."

You're right about the drama queen part, the demonrats should have hired 17,000 shrinks instead of lawyers...might have done them more good.

I'm a biker and I guess part of a "leather contingent" but I wear leather as armor not as plumage.

43 posted on 12/03/2004 11:45:12 AM PST by 506trooper (Use me, abuse me, but don't make me feel cheap)
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To: 506trooper
You are the icon they are trying to emulate. One of my friends was deeply involved in the leather community when he died of AIDS before America really knew what AIDS was, it was HTLV-3, then. My job when he died was to cleanse his apartment before his family could find out. Believe me, I got an education I wish I'd never had.
44 posted on 12/03/2004 12:03:22 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Gotta love the Jedi mind trick....good one.


45 posted on 12/03/2004 12:11:54 PM PST by PubliusEXMachina (Ashely's Story)
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To: PJ-Comix

Rovian that is pretty good.


46 posted on 12/03/2004 12:27:48 PM PST by Deetes
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To: Protagoras

Oh, get over yourself.


47 posted on 12/03/2004 12:28:44 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Oh, get over yourself.

Touch a nerve there sweetie?

48 posted on 12/03/2004 12:38:09 PM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: Protagoras

No... sweetie.


49 posted on 12/03/2004 12:40:01 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Well, there must be some reason for you to get your panties in a bunch,,,honey.


50 posted on 12/03/2004 12:43:40 PM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: Protagoras

My panties aren't in a bunch, snookums. I just don't care for people who go out of their way to disrupt other peoples' fun. If you don't like the DUmmie FUnnies, then for heavens sake don't torture yourself by clicking on them.

You're now on AutoIgnore. Have a nice day.


51 posted on 12/03/2004 12:48:01 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Ummm, I just love a flame war in the afternoon, it reminds me of victory. LOL

Have a nice weekend honey bunch.

52 posted on 12/03/2004 12:51:39 PM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: Protagoras

Later, darling!


53 posted on 12/03/2004 12:52:17 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Now, now sweetieums, you told a fib. You said I was on atuo-ignore. Ah, women, they change their minds so often. LOL


54 posted on 12/03/2004 12:57:13 PM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: PJ-Comix

It funny how these idiots Blame Rove for everything. They turned the man into a mythical force of nature in their own little minds.


55 posted on 12/03/2004 12:59:43 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: PJ-Comix

Just when I think it will never get too weird for me....

IT DOES.

This is tinfoil-hat stuff on a galactically brobdignagian scale....


56 posted on 12/03/2004 1:26:51 PM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: finnman69
The time has come.

Bev's empire is in jeopardy.

She will have the make the call to......

(drumroll, please)


Superlawyer!

(John Edwards)

I am sure he can get her posting rights back at DU. :-)
57 posted on 12/03/2004 1:39:47 PM PST by cgbg (Please remember to take off your bbvs before pooping.)
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To: pitbully
ZOT!

Ms. Harris's recent spat with Keith Olbermann has made positive discussion of verified voting increasingly difficult on DU. For over a year and a half, our members have been split into pro- and anti-Bev factions, and recent events have only exacerbated that division. Yet this morning Ms. Harris returned to DU and started posting as if nothing had happened, while making liberal use of the alert button to complain to the moderators about our enforcement of the message board rules. At this point our patience finally ran out.

The fact that the disruptions have continued, despite repeated warnings from the administrators, leaves us with no other option but to bar Bev Harris from posting on this website. We no longer believe that it is productive to allow her to use DU as a platform to promote herself while simultaneously trashing us, our moderators, and others who have been previously supportive of her cause.

58 posted on 12/03/2004 2:06:25 PM PST by granite (WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE, GET OVER IT DUMMIES!!!)
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To: MKM1960
"Believe me, I got an education I wish I'd never had."

Picture me poking my minds eye out.
59 posted on 12/03/2004 2:20:45 PM PST by 506trooper (Use me, abuse me, but don't make me feel cheap)
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To: PJ-Comix

Okay - I'm tired of using the search function to find DUFU - put me on the Ping list. Thanks for all your work, I do enjoy sniggering and chortling.


60 posted on 12/03/2004 3:00:49 PM PST by berkeleybeej
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