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Soviets/Germans Planned Breakup of Ukraine/Eastern in Advance (!!!)
Tydenik Politika | 11.14-11.20, 1991

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:32:51 PM PST by TapTheSource

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1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:32:51 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

ping!


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:33:37 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: MTOrlando; A. Pole

I think all of the above needs to be understood in light of Putin's Leninist "logic" layed out by the following excerpt taken from the book "Perestroika Deception", written by KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn (pp 17-19):

‘PERESTROIKA’, THE FINAL PHASE: ITS MAIN OBJECTIVES

‘The new method sees ‘perestroika’, not as a surprising and spontaneous change, but as the logical result of thirty years of preparation and as the next and final phase of the strategy: it sees it in a broader context than Soviet ‘openness’ has revealed.’

‘It sees it, not only as a renewal of Soviet society, but as a global strategic design for ‘restructuring’ the entire capitalist world.’

‘The following strategic objectives of ‘perestroika’ may be distinguished:

For the USSR

(a) ‘Restructuring’ and revitalization of the Soviet socialist economy through the incorporation of some elements of the market economy.
(b) ‘Restructuring’ of the Stalinist regime into a form of ‘Communist democracy’ with an appearance of political pluralism [= ‘democratism’, or false democracy].
(c) ‘Reconsructing’ a repressive regime with a brutal face into an attractive socialist model with a human façade and seeming similarity to the Swedish social democratic system.’

For Eastern Europe

‘Economic and political ‘restructuring’ of the existing regimes into pseudo-social democratic models while preserving specific national historical features such as the strong Catholic Socialist tradition in Poland and the pre-war democratic tradition in Czechoslovakia.’

For Western Europe

(a) ‘Bringing about a new political alliance between the pseudo-social democratic regimes in the USSR and Eastern Europe and the Euro-Communist parties and genuine social democratic parties in Western Europe.
(b) ‘Restructuring’ political and military blocs—NATO and the Warsaw Pact—and the creation of a singe ‘Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals’ incorporating a reunited, neutral Germany.’

For the main US alliances

(a) ‘Splitting the United States, Western Europe and Japan.
(b) Dissolution of NATO and the US-Japan security pact, and the withdrawal of US troops from Western Europe and Japan.’

For Third World countries

‘The introduction and promotion of a new Soviet model with a mixed economy and a human face in Latin America, Africa and Asia through a joint campaign by the pseudo-social democratic regimes of the USSR and Eastern Europe and the genuine social democrats of Western Europe led by the Socialist International.’

For the United States

(a) ‘To neutralize the influence of the anti-Communist political right in the American political parties and to create favourable conditions for a victory of the radical left in the 1992 US presidential elections (In this context, Clinton’s stay with top Communists in Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union during the latter part of the Vietnam war has profound and disturbing implications—TTS).
(b) To ‘restructure’ the American military, political, economic and social status quo to accommodate greater convergence between the Soviet and American systems and the eventual creation of a single World Government.’

The paramount global objective

‘The paramount global objective of the strategy of ‘perestroika’ is to weaken and neutralize anti-Communist ideology and the influence of anti-Communists in political life in the United States, Western Europe and elsewhere—presenting them as anachronistic survivors of the Cold War, reactionaries and obstacles to ‘restructuring’ and peace. Anyone who warns about Moscow’s true objectives is automatically branded a ‘Cold Warrior’, even by people who have doubts about Moscow’s motives.’

THE ESSENCE OF ‘PERESTROIKA’: AN APPLICATION OF 1920s’ LENINISM

‘The new method penetrates the façade, tears the verbal mask off ‘perestroika’ and reveals its true meaning—which Gorbachev and ‘glasnost’ have failed to do. Lenin’s teaching and the experience of the New Economic Policy [NEP] are keys to understanding the essence of ‘persestroika’ and the reasons for Gorbachev’s downgrading and renunciation of elements of ideological orthodoxy like the class struggle and his emphasis on common interests and the benefits of close cooperation.’

‘Lenin advised the Communists that they must be prepared to ‘resort to all sorts of stratagems, manoeuvres, illegal methods, evasions and subterfuge’ to achieve their objectives. This advice was given on the eve of his reintroduction of limited capitalism in Russia in his work ‘Left Wing Communism, an Infantile Disorder’.

‘The new method sees ‘perestroika’ as an application of Lenin’s advice in new conditions. Another speech of Lenin’s in the NEP period at the Comintern Congress in July 1921 is again highly relevant to understanding ‘perestroika’. ‘Our only strategy at present’, wrote Lenin, ‘is to become stronger and, therefore, wiser, more reasonable, more opportunistic. The more opportunistic, the sooner will you again assemble the masses around you. When we have won over the masses by our reasonable approach, we shall then apply offensive tactics in the strictest sense of the word.’

THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST FEDERATION (should they succeed…taken from Golitsyn’s book New Lies For Old, 1984)

‘Integration of the Communist Bloc would follow the lines envisaged by Lenin when the Third Communist International was founded. That is to say, the Soviet Union and China would not absorb one another or other Communist states. All the countries of the European and Asiatic Communist zones, together with new Communist states in Europe and the Third World, would join a supranational economic and political Communist federation (this is precisely what the Soviets have in mind for the impending EU collective—TTS). Soviet-Albanian, Soviet-Yugoslav, and Soviet-Romanian disputes and ‘differences’ would be resolved in the wake, or possibly in advance of, Sino-Soviet reconciliation (Golitsyn goes to great lengths in previous chapters to show how the split between the Soviets and the Chinese was completely healed immediately after Stalin’s death…however, they continued the illusion of a split to dupe the West into backing alternating sides, depending on circumstances—TTS). The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the Communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible. There might even be public acknowledgment that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the “imperialist” powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined’ (the Soviets have employed this tactic on numerous occasions—TTS).

‘In the new worldwide Communist federation the present different brands of Communism would disappear, to be replaced by a uniform, rigorous brand of Leninism. The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine oppositions would be crushed. Those who had taken advantage of détente to establish friendly Western contacts would be rebuked or persecuted like those Soviet officers who worked with the Allies during the Second World War. In new Communist states—for example, in France, Italy, and the Third World—the “alienated classes” would be reeducated. Show trials of “imperialist agents” would be staged. Action would be taken against nationalist and social democratic leaders, party activists, former civil servants, officers, and priests. The last vestiges of private enterprise and ownership would be obliterated. Nationalization of industry, finance, and agriculture would be completed. In fact, all the totalitarian features familiar from the early stages of the Soviet revolution and the postwar Stalinist years in Eastern Europe might be expected to reappear, especially in those countries newly won for Communism. Unchallenged and unchallengeable, a true Communist monolith would dominate the world.’


3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:39:38 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Zounds! Is Gorbechev still in residence in the Presidio?
That !@#$%^&*()_+&*^$(@!!!!! I knew Perestroika was a sham!


4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:43:53 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: TapTheSource

BUMP


5 posted on 11/29/2004 5:45:24 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; ukie; KOZ.

ping


6 posted on 11/29/2004 5:46:32 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: GSlob

Thought you'd want to know about this one (even though it backs up Golitsyn).


7 posted on 11/29/2004 5:47:10 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Paperdoll

All the more why this election in Ukraine is so critical.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 5:47:59 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher

"All the more why this election in Ukraine is so critical."

Of course, it could very well mean that the leadership of both parties are complete frauds. In other words, we may be witnessing the **planned** breakup of the Ukraine into Soviet (Russian)/German spheres.


9 posted on 11/29/2004 5:52:59 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Zionist Conspirator

ping (thought you would want to know about this)--TTS


10 posted on 11/29/2004 5:56:10 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Windcatcher

Do you suppose this is really the beginning of the domino effect? From Russia with love to Poland, Romania, Germany, France, etc., etc., etc.. The United States of Soviet Russia. All the more reason to repent, confess our sins, change our ways and proclaim Jesus Christ Lord. No fear. God is always in control.


11 posted on 11/29/2004 6:01:49 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

For those of you who realize the potential importance of the document contained in the original post, I would appreciate it if you ping this post to as many FReepers as possible. Thanks--TTS


12 posted on 11/29/2004 6:06:43 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
High time for that breakage. Orthodox to the left, Uniates to the right [if one looks in southern direction], and everyone's reciprocally happy. The best part of it is that there will be no or very little bloodshed, way better than in former Yugoslavia or during Indo-Pakistan partition.
13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:12:20 PM PST by GSlob
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To: TapTheSource; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; JohnHuang2; Mia T; dennisw; SJackson; devolve; F15Eagle; ...
Just when you thought COMMUNISM died . .

‘PERESTROIKA’ - ping.

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For the main US alliances

(a) Splitting the United States, Western Europe and Japan.
(b) Dissolution of NATO and the US-Japan security pact, and the withdrawal of US troops from Western Europe and Japan.’

14 posted on 11/29/2004 6:30:40 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe
I hope you spent a sufficient amount of time letting the significance of the original post sink-in re: Golitsyn's warnings. I am not being condescending, I just want to stress how incredibly important this document is--for it anticipated/predicted that the breakup of Eastern Europe was by DESIGN and not by some sort of "Velvet Revolution."
15 posted on 11/29/2004 6:35:34 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Take me off your list. I really don't want to bother with your rubbish.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 6:36:19 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: TapTheSource

The ACID TEST - Is it too incredible to be believed by the masses?


17 posted on 11/29/2004 6:37:10 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: dr_who_2
Hope you're right. I tend to believe anything is possible where Vladamir Putin, Helmut Kohl, and the United Nations are concerned (especially when you throw in Kofi Anan).
18 posted on 11/29/2004 6:39:42 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

Just read Dr. Who's post...if he was in a Monte Python movie he'd be yelling "Run away!!! Run Away!!!" But that's ok, all we need is a number to match our enemies (which historically add up to only 1-3% of any given population). I guess that would make you and I part of the elite :o)...


19 posted on 11/29/2004 6:41:00 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Askel5; Domestic Church; NYer

an off the beaten path PING


20 posted on 11/29/2004 6:42:37 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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