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[cohokie]

I have been trolling over at the Democratic Underground and those folks are truly insane. The two forums I went to were the Election 2004 and the Breaking News. The Election 2004 is full of tons of conspiracy theories on how Bush stole the election. The Breaking News area is full of a bunch of Americans who pull for the enemy. Those folks are truly crazy ... but they are very entertaining at the same time.

[GeronL]

Over 60 Million people voted for Bush!!!

Let'em eat yellowcake!!

JESUSLAND GROWING [Shannen Coffin] No, sorry. It's now 60,367,111 stupid people. Posted at 05:04 PM

[Darkwolf377]

I have no clue about the FR universe as you call it--I don't know where to post or where to post it. If I get something of interest I post it. I've posted one or two vanities but got so much crying and whining (never as much as the positive response from people who enjoyed and werei nterested in the vanities, which were basically questions which allowed people to express themselves, but still)that I've stopped bothering.

The most pointless thing to post is "posted already: or "this vanity doesn't belong here". I thought of FR as a virtual back fence for discussion with neighbors from all over the country. The old cranks who insist on their little rules just bore me.

[DaiHuy]

These guys are in total meltdown:

93,000 Extra Votes In
Cuyahoga County -
Outrage In Ohio
By Teed Rockwell
Philosophy Department, Sonoma State University
11-12-4


Smoking Gun

You may have seen the associated press story about the precinct in Cuyahoga county that had less than 1,000 voters, and gave Bush almost 4,000 extra votes.

But that turns out to be only the tip of a very ugly iceberg. The evidence discovered by some remarkably careful sleuthing would convince any reasonable court to invalidate the entire Ohio election.

In last Tuesday's election, 29 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, reported votes cast IN EXCESS of the number of registered voters - at least 93,136 extra votes total. And the numbers are right there on the official Cuyahoga County Board of Elections website:

Bay Village - 13,710 registered voters / 18,663 ballots cast
Beachwood - 9,943 registered voters / 13,939 ballots cast
Bedford - 9,942 registered voters / 14,465 ballots cast
Bedford Heights - 8,142 registered voters / 13,512 ballots cast
Brooklyn - 8,016 registered voters / 12,303 ballots cast
Brooklyn Heights - 1,144 registered voters / 1,869 ballots cast
Chagrin Falls Village - 3,557 registered voters / 4,860 ballots cast
Cuyahoga Heights - 570 registered voters / 1,382 ballots cast
Fairview Park - 13,342 registered voters / 18,472 ballots cast
Highland Hills Village - 760 registered voters / 8,822 ballots cast
Independence - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Mayfield Village - 2,764 registered voters / 3,145 ballots cast
Middleburg Heights - 12,173 registered voters / 14,854 ballots cast
Moreland Hills Village - 2,990 registered voters / 4,616 ballots cast
North Olmstead - 25,794 registered voters / 25,887 ballots cast
Olmstead Falls - 6,538 registered voters / 7,328 ballots cast
Pepper Pike - 5,131 registered voters / 6,479 ballots cast
Rocky River - 16,600 registered voters / 20,070 ballots cast
Solon (WD6) - 2,292 registered voters / 4,300 ballots cast
South Euclid - 16,902 registered voters / 16,917 ballots cast
Strongsville (WD3) - 7,806 registered voters / 12,108 ballots cast
University Heights - 10,072 registered voters / 11,982 ballots cast
Valley View Village - 1,787 registered voters / 3,409 ballots cast
Warrensville Heights - 10,562 registered voters / 15,039 ballots cast
Woodmere Village - 558 registered voters / 8,854 ballots cast
Bedford (CSD) - 22,777 registered voters / 27,856 ballots cast
Independence (LSD) - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Orange (CSD) - 11,640 registered voters / 22,931 ballots cast
Warrensville (CSD) - 12,218 registered voters / 15,822 ballots cast

The Republicans are so BUSTED.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us
/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm#top

...is the official website of the Cuyahoga county election board, providing irrefutable evidence that the vote was off by at least 93,000. Kerry lost Ohio by approximately 130,000, so this is not an insignificant figure that can be ignored, particularly when there are numerous other indications of voter fraud in Ohio and elsewhere.

I think the only possible alternative is to invalidate the entire Ohio election, if not the entire national election. I'd say the game's up.

America, it looks pretty much like you've been had.

Sincerely,

Teed Rockwell
Philosophy Department
Sonoma State University


Hey TEED, can you say PROVISIONAL BALLOT

[DJ MacWoW]

WoW! This thread is starting to sound just like DU.

[Darkwolf377]

Yeah, you're right--it's that someone can even THINK this election was stolen that is important. Forget that those "thinking" this are a bunch who, as we and the dems have seen, are willing to watch Fahrenheit 9-11 and dance at "protests" but can't find the time to vote.

[Darkwolf377]

I think I'm missing something here. If these figures are correct it looks pretty bad for us!

[clee1]

Oh????? Were we debating???

I was trying to suggest, in a FRiendly way, that maybe your latent posting fascism was getting the best of you, and a little relaxation therapy might be in order.

You took umbrage at this and suggested (in an unusually verbose way) that I go p!ss up a rope! (a hemp rope, at that. Are you one of those NORML people?).

I then suggested, still politely, that you go to another thread, or complain to the Management, if you didn't like the content here.

At which point, you told me, in British vernacular, to go screw myself anally. So I replied that you could go perform a "Lewinsky" on a motorized garden tool.

Wherein lies the debate?

I'm done with you. Goodnight.

[DaiHuy]

Click the link, if you can find them, let me know, because I sure didn't see them on the website.

[Darkwolf377]

I looked there too and found the numbers and percentages that looked pretty normal. I didn't find what this guy claimed was there. Gee, he wouldn't be LYING huh???

[Keith in Iowa]

Gee, you must really spend too much time in the DU cesspool to jump to the most vulgar, and explicit definitions of the British vernacular there are other, much less explicit, derogatory definitions to it. The more time you spend with 'em, the more like 'em you become I guess. Enjoy yourself at DU.

[stands2reason]

This happens all the time in Dem heavy counties like Cuyahoga County. I'll betcha every one of those precincts were Dem-controlled. You should see the numbers for Philly.

[DaiHuy]

Well they are there, but I imagine that there is a logical explanation for it, other wise I would think that the Ohio SoS would be looking into it. YOu really have to dig to find them, but personally I think it is provisional ballots that were probably thrown out.

[Darkwolf377]

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/boe/results/history/2004/EL52.TXT

I think this is what he was talking about. If I can figure out where he got the info will post.

[Darkwolf377]

"YOu really have to dig to find them, but personally I think it is provisional ballots that were probably thrown out."

So they got the total by adding ballots cast and provisional ballots thrown out? That still sounds like a LOT of people trying to vote twice, though.

[Morgan's Raider]

Cuyahoga County is the democrat bastion of the state. So, assuming ol' Teed's figures are correct (although I believe I've since read that they have been debunked), what evidence does he have that these were extra votes fot the President? Since democrats control the county, it's much more likely that any fraud was done at the behest of Kerry.

Otherwise, all ol' Teed has furnished is a set of disjointed numbers and drawn some kind of screwball conspiracy theory post hoc, ergo propter hoc conclusion.

[DaiHuy]

Results Page

[DaiHuy]

These guys are really digging to find any thread of hope that JF'nK won. It must be really hard to be that big a loser.

[Darkwolf377]

I'm all confused now. If Kerry won so strongly in Cuyahoga County...what are they bitching about? The discovery of such overvoting would hurt Kerry, not Bush. If I'm missing some obvious point just ignore me as a moron, but this seems to be the case...

[cabojoe]

Now you are seeing the light...took you awhile...lol.

[Darkwolf377]

Too much time with my democrat friends...:P

I guess I'd ask this guy, then, why the "Republicans are so screwed!" when if a recount is done (and any fraud uncovered) KERRY will be losing votes...