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I mentioned on another thread that at first I thought we should go after Specter. After careful thought and reflection, I think to go after Specter hardcore would be destructive to our side. We could lose our majority by alienating our moderates and thus in one fell swoop become like the Dems who we criticize for ostricizing their moderates.

I think we can find a middle ground. Hinderocket tries to do so in his post. I think it's worth the read.

1 posted on 11/08/2004 4:43:30 PM PST by hansel
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To: hansel

I agree with this...it is silly to spend Bush's political capital on party infighting instead on extracting a pound or two of flesh from the Democrats on Taxes, FICA, Judicial nominations, etc, etc.

Specter did save the Clarance Thomas nomination when others were caving to Anita Hill....it was risky for him with the female vote in PA as well...he'll be fine.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 4:46:10 PM PST by Tribemike (Here is the text of the article....)
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To: hansel
Specter: "I will not give up our Party to radical extremists without a fight." StopSpecterNow.com
3 posted on 11/08/2004 4:46:31 PM PST by GeneralHavoc (Stop Specter From Blocking Bush's Judges! Visit StopSpecterNow.com!)
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To: hansel

Oh, PLEASE!

Stop this "middle ground" stuff. There is no middle ground for Hilter and there is no "middle ground" for this dangerous idiot. The guy is wrong, PERIOD.


4 posted on 11/08/2004 4:47:21 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: hansel
I suspect this is the conclusion that the President came to when this first erupted.

However, we must keep emailing and calling Specter to let him know we are NOT amused. And we are watching.

5 posted on 11/08/2004 4:47:57 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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To: hansel

great post,
i totally agree and posted what powerline wrote on an early forum about Spector.....let's not become Dems's of Jihadists on this......stay united as a party and let the rules apply.....Bush will get his nominee's thru and Spector can help with the RINO'S.........it will all work out.......Im' more afraid that some of us will become so intolerant that we will look foolish and one os small tent.....witness to your beliefs and then let Karl and the Whitehouse and Frisk do the right thing......they will...show the Dems and Michael Mooore etc that we can govern properly, solve our own disagreements and move forward........


6 posted on 11/08/2004 4:48:36 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: hansel

You misspelled "gerund."

Dan


7 posted on 11/08/2004 4:48:39 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: hansel

The mandate that President Bush got was not from liberal moderates.

Why take a chance when his mounth already gave him away?


9 posted on 11/08/2004 4:49:26 PM PST by El Oviedo
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To: hansel

Good essay. Allow me to opine. Like you, I initially wanted to throw the guy over the side. Then I found Hewitt's arguments very persuasive. I even thought that Arlen as chair could actually NOW work to the GOP's advantage...he supports the president's nominees'..he gives some of the Dems cover to vote for them...(after all, "ole Arlen's sterongly por-choice, and he's OK with this...the usual double talk...) However, what's decided me that he's got to go, ASAP, is listening to all the lefties, libs, and Dems who are supporting Spector. To reshuffle the old maxim..In politics, the friend of my enemy is still my enemy..


10 posted on 11/08/2004 4:50:32 PM PST by ken5050
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To: hansel

I don't think Specter will be nearly as much of a problem as some seem to think. Besides I don't like the idea of tossing people overboard at the first sign of disagreement. We just saw what happened when the democrats did it.

Other than saying that I have no intent to pressure the president on his picks.


11 posted on 11/08/2004 4:51:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Greetings from Militiagan.)
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To: hansel
There's middle gorund on him? I hear this is the best way to have it removed:


13 posted on 11/08/2004 4:53:39 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: hansel

We don't get a say, Bush does. He has decided to let Specters idiocy pass. I voted for Bush because I trust him, I'll have to trust his judgement here as well.


14 posted on 11/08/2004 4:54:03 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: hansel

I am normally a nuclear option guy, but not in this case. I agree with Hewitt that dissing Specter kills our chances for confirming any conservative judge.

I think we leave Specter alone with his promise for quick up-or-down votes. Then Bush nominates conservative after conservative to the courts. Let the Dems block Bush judges until the Supreme court is reduced to 7 or 8 judges, and use their obstruction as the hammer to deliver a super-majority in 2006.

That would be my tack.


15 posted on 11/08/2004 4:54:18 PM PST by copycat (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. - Goldwater)
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To: hansel

Hold your friends close.
Hold your enemies closer.


16 posted on 11/08/2004 5:00:21 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: hansel; All
We did the middle ground thing when President Bush first took office, and all it got us was Daschle (sp?) and filibusters!

Persuasive, my foot!

Appease the terrorists, appease the RINOs...same stuff!

Why do Republicans always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? Girly men!

I would NEVER vote for Frist for President. He has NO SPINE! And the thing that grabs my gut is that he's a doctor...he knows what abortion is!

Thank God that the signers of the Declaration of Independence had more courage than the Republican Senate, and pundits like Hewett!

18 posted on 11/08/2004 5:16:34 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Specter needs to see a 3-D sonogram image.)
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To: sinkspur; Torie
This guy has exactly the right idea when it comes to Specter: recognize that it is tactically necessary to give him the chairmanship, but let the leadership know our unhappiness. That way they'll hold his feet to the fire, and the favor he'll owe them for "saving" him will be that much bigger.
21 posted on 11/08/2004 8:24:27 PM PST by curiosity
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