[Bonaparte]

"I am sure that cost us at least 500K - 1M votes in the east, especially amongst conservative Californians..."

California in the east?

"... who don't have much of a reason to go and vote anyway since California is such a left wing hellhole."

If kerry state conservatives thought like that, Bush would not have gotten a popular vote victory margin of 3.5 million. Also, more local and state contests would have gone to the dems, eg. the definition of marriage amendments in those 11 states.

[Trippin]

"California in the east?"

Well, it's east of China. LOL.

And yes, many Republicans I know in CA don't think they're votes count in a presidential election, and normally only vote if there's something else on the ballot of some importance.