Here's some fresh thinking from the Brain Trust at DU:
smb (201 posts) Thu Nov-04-04 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #16
45. The Dems Need To Adopt Libertarian Economics
Look, anybody who looks up the numbers knows that the red states are sucking off the federal teat at the expense of the blue states, their "anti big government" rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
Well, give them what they say they want... good and hard. Shut down the various federal corporate-welfare programs, let the states pay for their own infrastructure, let the inhabitants of East Backscratch pay the real cost of delivering their mail and running their phone lines, etc. In short, leave the red states gasping in the reeds like a fish.
The best part is that it uses their own rhetoric, and will have the (at least initial, until they realize the trap they've walked into) support of the Pubbies who actually believe this stuff. Political judo.
And here is a women that epitomizes the reason they lost:
deutsey (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-04 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #5
18. It isn't just fundies who believe the Democrats are "sooo liberal"
I got into little spat yesterday with a Democrat who told me she believes the Democrats need to be more centrist, that they're alienating people because they're too far left.
I told her that from my perspective (and I am on the left) the Democrats are center-right and have been for some time now. The official political spectrum in this country ranges from far-right to centrist.
SHE THINKS THE DIM'S ARE CENTER RIGHT!!!!! Good Lord!
I'm not sure what you're trying to demonstrate by quoting them.