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A Rationale for Revolution
Portland State University Vanguard ^ | 10/15/2004 | Chaelan MacTavish

Posted on 10/16/2004 10:58:28 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt

Oregon plays a unique role in national politics and American thought. We are a forward-thinking state, and we value the liberties of the individual more than most.

We are also a small state, and occasionally the policies we enact are watched nationwide as an experiment, before they are adopted by the entire country. We are the microcosm of America's progress.

We will soon be facing another opportunity to exhibit our individuality. Another election for president of the United States is on the horizon, and the likelihood of a fair and clean election is low. Computerized voting, an untested, secretive and unverifiable method of ascertaining the will of the people, will tabulate more than a third of America's roughly 200 million votes for president.

The CEO of Diebold Election Systems, the company which controls 50 percent of the electronic voting market, wrote, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president." The same president who, some say, stole the 2000 election. The candidate who, as the recounts show, lost the election in the state of Florida. There is undeniable (if unreported) proof, according to the non-partisan University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center that George W. Bush did not legitimately win the Presidency in 2000.

This year Republicans control the House, Senate, Supreme Court, all the major media outlets and now the methods to tally our votes.

My question is, as Oregonians, what should we do if the election is tampered with and voters are disenfranchised? What should we do if votes for Kerry are lost in the binary source code while votes for Bush count 5 times? As America's progressive conscience, what should we do if we are unable to elect our federal government?

Are we under an obligation to follow the orders of anyone who calls himself President, even if he is not legally elected as our constitution requires?

As an Oregonian, I believe in freedom. I am a patriot who believes in democracy. Because of this, I am concerned that this year's election will face us with a difficult choice: in the event of an illegitimate election, should we abide by whatever results it illegally concludes? Or should we demand a new election, a fair, accurate tally of the people's will?

As Oregonians, we could do no less than demand that the Union to which we belong have representatives that we elect. But if our demands are unmet - the demands of the democracy that we fight for - are we under any obligation to stay in a union that is undemocratic?

We belong to the United States of America only by our own consent. If George Bush steals the election again, and takes a presidency that is not his, the sovereign state of Oregon must secede from the Union.

We have marvelous resources in our state, which we can use to sustain ourselves. We have thriving industries. We will surely gain lucrative contracts from anti-Bush nations around the globe. And, most importantly, we have no obligation to follow the laws of a tyrant who seizes power contrary to every notion of freedom and self-governance that we hold dear.

Should we lead the way, others would follow. A confederacy may arise. Bush may then be threatened out by his own party, allowing us to rejoin the Union, and the good ol' U.S. of A will be whole once more.

Maybe we will never need to implement these options. Maybe the elections will be fair, contrary to Jimmy Carter's and the UN's warnings. But we have already seen to what lengths evil men will go for absolute power. It would be imprudent for us not to plan for what we know they are capable of.

Should the people's will be subverted again, it is our civic duty to secede, either symbolically, or actually. For we are Americans, and we live in the Land of the Free. Any man who would take our freedom away is a man that we have no obligation to follow.


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1 posted on 10/16/2004 10:58:28 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Keyes2000mt
"But if our demands are unmet - the demands of the democracy that we fight for - are we under any obligation to stay in a union that is undemocratic?

Uh... When did we become a democracy? I thought we were still a Republic. Silly me.

2 posted on 10/16/2004 11:02:38 PM PDT by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

I love reading this stuff.


3 posted on 10/16/2004 11:03:50 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Keyes2000mt
"... are we under any obligation to stay in a union that is undemocratic?"

No, you can always go to.... Canada?

4 posted on 10/16/2004 11:04:55 PM PDT by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: Keyes2000mt

...lost in the binary source code? What is this idiot talking about? The source code stays with the devoloper you freaking idiot.

Go kiss a duck.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 11:07:36 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Keyes2000mt
There is undeniable (if unreported) proof, according to the non-partisan University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center that George W. Bush did not legitimately win the Presidency in 2000.

Where's the "undeniable proof"?

The direct opposite was done, the Dems. cheated all over the country in the big cities. And the panhandle folks got ripped off by the early call.

This is a laugh.

"non-partisan" -- LOL!

6 posted on 10/16/2004 11:08:11 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Keyes2000mt

I reckon I have enough ammunition to handle Oregon. Taking bids on the rest of Lib Land.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 11:08:47 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

This be TREASON!


8 posted on 10/16/2004 11:09:14 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Keyes2000mt
This year Republicans control the House, Senate, Supreme Court, all the major media outlets

ROFL -- tell that to Dan Rather, Ted Koppel, and the rest of the liberal/commie scum!

9 posted on 10/16/2004 11:10:01 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Keyes2000mt; nopardons

these kids should be careful what they wish for....they will go the way of the Mensheviks.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 11:10:13 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Keyes2000mt

Should we lead the way, others would follow.

Yes. Vermont. Take howie with you. YYYYYAAAAEEEEEAAARRRGGGHHH

11 posted on 10/16/2004 11:10:23 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Truth Table

If Bush wins, I'm going to go down to the most 'RAT-invested part of this lefty town (Washington DC) with a couple of like-minded friends, park myself in a watering-hole, and just breath in the sweat air of leftist misery.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 11:10:59 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Prevent the next 9-11. Stop Islamic immigration and deport Muslim aliens.)
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To: Keyes2000mt
A liberal crack-up. A Paranoid Schizophrenic. I love to watch them fall apart. MWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
13 posted on 10/16/2004 11:11:07 PM PDT by Moconservative
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To: Keyes2000mt

Boy, the loonies are out thick lately aren't they?


14 posted on 10/16/2004 11:11:24 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Keyes2000mt
The candidate who, as the recounts show, lost the election in the state of Florida.

It must be truly wonderful to be able to make stuff up and then base your entire argument on the fallacy. Every single recount by every group who conducted one in Florida shows that Bush won. Furthermore, it was Gore who tried to take away the votes of the military by using nothing but technicalities. Dirtbags!

15 posted on 10/16/2004 11:11:38 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: Keyes2000mt
If George Bush steals the election again, and takes a presidency that is not his, the sovereign state of Oregon must secede from the Union.

Good riddance.

16 posted on 10/16/2004 11:11:59 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Moconservative

I found this so interesting because this is the first time I've read of a leftist wanting secession.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 11:12:51 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (John Kerry: The Wrong Candidate, for the Wrong Office, at the Wrong Time)
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To: Casloy

I feel like boon in animal house when John belushi's character was ranting on about the Germans bombing pearl harbor...

Germans?
Don't stop him, he's on a roll.

The scary thing? This dude is 'sposed to be in college.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 11:14:32 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: Keyes2000mt

See ya Oregon! Less electoral votes for 'Rat presidential candidates.


19 posted on 10/16/2004 11:16:16 PM PDT by fourscore (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Truth Table
The scary thing? This dude is 'sposed to be in college.

Sadly, it doesn't mean that much anymore. We need to go back to a time when college was something people attended because they wanted an education, not because they had nothing better to do.

20 posted on 10/16/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT by Casloy
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