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Kerry not Honorably Discharged?
"Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director ^ | 18 Sep 2004 | Steve Nash

Posted on 09/19/2004 8:38:35 PM PDT by grace522

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To: FairOpinion

Precisely why I think that question NEEDS to be asked during the debates, especially when the Kerry camp has thwon so many allegations toward Bush's Guard service.


161 posted on 09/20/2004 5:14:33 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: FairOpinion

That should be thrown...


162 posted on 09/20/2004 5:14:57 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: FairOpinion

"At Yale, Kerry was chairman of the Political Union and later, as Commencement speaker, urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations. And this was way back in 1966.

When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy.

))))))

Both of your statements are accurate, but for added impact you should also add that he was already in the Naval Reserve when he made the antiwar commencement speech, or put the second statement first.


163 posted on 09/20/2004 5:18:50 AM PDT by maica
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To: mhking; FairOpinion; grace522; Libertina
No Record of Kerry’s Discharge Certificate Maintained by Navy
164 posted on 09/20/2004 5:20:17 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: xzins
There is no there there. All of this baseless conjecture on whether Kerry received a less than honorable discharge or was pardoned by Carter is nonsense. We have official Navy records that say the opposite.

Kerry received an honorable discharge. His progression through the Reserve system was normal. He was released into the inactive reserves on Jan 3, 1970 with no drill requirement, only the requirement to keep the Navy informed of his whereabouts. He was transferred on July 1, 1972 into the Standby Reserves, inactive and received his honorable discharge on Feb 16, 1978.

As a former naval officer who resigned his commission in 1972 and was released from active duty, I had a similar experience. I was transferred into the Standby Reserves and then received my honorable discharge on Feb 16, 1978. A Navy board convenes at least annually to decide who to drop from the Standby Reserves. Kerry and I happened to have been transferred into the Standby Reserves in the same year, hence the same date for our honorable discharges.

165 posted on 09/20/2004 5:26:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Repub4bush

Ping for later reading!


166 posted on 09/20/2004 5:27:04 AM PDT by Repub4bush
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To: fight_truth_decay

There may not be a certificate kept on file, but there is a record that states he did receive an honorable discharge.


167 posted on 09/20/2004 5:27:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

When was the second DD214 typed?


168 posted on 09/20/2004 5:27:59 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: aft_lizard
Strange,it was not thought to be there before:
A copy of Senator Kerry’s DD Form 256N discharge certificate was not available on his campaign Internet site as of this writing. (9-15,16-04)http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1218576/posts. Judicial Watch also sought Senator Kerry’s Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N) from the U.S. Navy under the provisions of the FOIA. Mr. German stated that the U.S. Navy issues the DD Form 256N to the discharged service member, but does not maintain an official copy of the certificate in the service member’s record.

Read the comments..Re:1991 discharge or separated from the Navy..

169 posted on 09/20/2004 5:28:40 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Brian Allen
As the ANG is part of the Air Force.

Not true.

170 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:18 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: kabar

Yes. I saw that and decided not to post that, but to my dismay I realized later that it did post! Duh! So I asked the mod to delete it. The entry on the 1st page for the service medal is what had begun to throw me, plus the fact that there was a reference to a second page on one of them, the deleted date on the second page, the different type set on the same page, etc. But I realized they were two separate DD214. Thanks for mentioning it though. :) Is that post still there? Sheesh! LOL.


171 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:18 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: greasepaint

You receive a DD214 when you are released from active duty. The effective date is Jan 3, 1970.


172 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: MistyCA

The post is still on findlaw under the link I provided to you.


173 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: grace522

If this is true, maye this is why he does not want the book about his service published.


174 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:48 AM PDT by tob2 (Old fossil and proud of it.)
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To: kabar

So, you are saying that he has included a DD214 and/or honorable discharge among those papers he has released as of this date? Is that correct?


175 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins
So, you are saying that he has included a DD214 and/or honorable discharge among those papers he has released as of this date? Is that correct?

Yes, he has released his DD214 as of that date. We also have a letter giving him his honorable discharge. See http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/hondisres.pdf

176 posted on 09/20/2004 5:46:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: grace522

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/post-42620.html

As you can see Nash's story has been floating around for a while as the dated link of August 28th.


177 posted on 09/20/2004 5:47:03 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: MistyCA

I noitce I mentioned Kerry received his commission on Dec 16, 2004. Of course, it should have been 1966 vice 2004. Sorry about that.


178 posted on 09/20/2004 5:49:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

His website has changed since people have looked at the details posted and the media has also produced some glaring differences.




On Jan. 3, 1970, Kerry requested that his superior, Rear Admiral Walter F. Schlech, Jr., grant him an early discharge so that he could run for Congress on an antiwar platform. "I just said to the admiral: `I've got to get out. I've got to go do what I came back here to do, which is, end this thing,'" Kerry recalled, referring to the war. The request was approved, and Kerry was honorably discharged, which he said shaved six months from his commitment.





http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml


179 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:31 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: kabar

HUH? What post?


180 posted on 09/20/2004 6:00:45 AM PDT by MistyCA
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