Posted on 09/17/2004 9:23:15 PM PDT by haroldz
What is the destination fax number from Kinko's records?
The header of any facsimile should identify the sender's name, date and telephone number of the sending fax machine. For the questioned documents, we assume that the name is Kinko's in Abilene, but I have not heard anyone give the date or telephone number. The date obviously should tell us when the documents were faxed, that is whether done recently or some months ago. The date should also be the starting point for an examination of Kinko's telephone records (assuming no legal impediments) to show where the fax documents were sent. There may be several telephone numbers for faxes sent that same day, but it would not be an insurmountable number to winnow through to narrow the number of viable possibilities. Kinko's records should also show who paid for the telephone charges in sending the faxes (if a customer paid for the service). If a fax machine was used directly by a customer, there should still be a telephone record of the destination for the transmission of those documents. This all assumes, of course, that telephone and billing records at Kinko's are accessible.
I can't help but believe that someone has already made this inquiry, but if not, it might be a worthwhile endeavor.
Why would anyone in their right mind put the poor shop's fax number out on the internet for every crackpot to call?
Why should a legitimate business like Kinkos be subject to revealing such information?
They (or someone) already has.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:w3PckU0kEvMJ:www.jquinton.com/archives/001780.html+%22(325)+698-4500%22&hl=en
> This all assumes, of course, that telephone and
> billing records at Kinko's are accessible.
No problem, just create some grounds for a criminal
complaint, and get the local DA to ask a local judge
for a court order.
As matters presently stand, Kinkos has probably already
blabbed too much.
I frankly don't expect to see much further development
along this line of inquiry. Bush isn't gonna sue CBS
for defamation. CBS isn't likely to sue Kinkos. The
Abilene DA is probably hoping it will all go away
quietly.
If CBS fires Rather, there may not even be a Congressional
inquiry (but if there is, all the laundry will get aired).
Right! Shhhh, I'll keep the phone number a secret. Whose phone rang?
Forging Federal docs is a crime and when they go out of state, it moves from a state issue to a Federal one. I don't THINK this is going to go away.... FBI has probably been involved with this for sometime now.
They're not federal documents. They're copies of federal documents.
Well, their fake Federal documents. That's forgery isn't it??
If someone creates a fake Social Security Card and signs your name, isn't that forgery?
their = they're
I didn't say put the number on the internet. Look at the next fax you see. There is supposed to be a telephone number identifying the sender. What I am saying is to check the sender's telephone records for the recipients from that sender's number. Obviously easier said than done.
It very well may be. However, the documents in possession of CBS are not federal documents. They are copies of federal documents and CBS knows they're copies. The question is simple whether they are accurate or inaccurate copies.
welcome aboard!
Ok..hear me out.
These are not REAL Federal documents. Someone CREATED at least one document with MS word, and is trying to pass it off as the real thing. Creating a fake Federal document is a crime. Then to FORGE someone signature, is another crime. Then, faxing it out of state, crossing state lines, is another crime. I'm basing what I'm saying on what I've heard as recently as yesterday from Pat Caddell.
Sure, the documents in CBS's hands are copies.. that they then had someone alledgedly authenticate. No one can authenticate a copy as the real thing.
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That information is programmed in by the owner/user of the FAX machine.
I can program my FAX with any phone number and name, or none at all.
I doubt that the management at Kinko's and you have the same philosophy about complying with communications laws.
My point is that it's a programmable piece of electronics.
The CommiecRATs would have no moral, ethical, or character problem with forging a Kinkos name and address on their FAX machine.
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