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Rather's "Unmerciful Public Flogging"
Belmont Club ^ | 14 September 2004 | Wretchard

Posted on 09/13/2004 9:44:48 PM PDT by GRANGER

Tuesday, September 14, 2004

The End

The Washington Post has run an article which practically humiliates CBS and Dan Rather. It begins with a repudiation of the Killian memos by the 60 Minutes chief document expert, Marcel Matley. The Post then pronounces on the documents themselves: they are fake.

A detailed comparison by The Washington Post of memos obtained by CBS News with authenticated documents on Bush's National Guard service reveals dozens of inconsistencies, ranging from conflicting military terminology to different word-processing techniques.

The analysis shows that half a dozen Killian memos released earlier by the military were written with a standard typewriter using different formatting techniques from those characteristic of computer-generated documents. CBS's Killian memos bear numerous signs that are more consistent with modern-day word-processing programs, particularly Microsoft Word.

It continues unmercifully by citing the evidence of electronic typesetting expert Joseph M. Newcomer who declares "I am personally 100 percent sure that they are fake". The Washington Post goes on to detail numerous factual and formatting errors in the CBS documents, mentioning among other things, word processing characteristics, wrong addresses, styles, inconsistencies in dates before introducing the additional repudiation of key 60 Minutes source Bobby Hodges. Deserted by its original document expert, CBS is then reported to rely on a new consultant called Bill Glennon who says 'IBM electric typewriters in use in 1972 could produce superscripts and proportional spacing similar to those used in the disputed documents' before admitting that he was 'not a document expert, could not vouch for the memos' authenticity and only examined them online because CBS did not give him copies when asked to visit the network's offices.' To set against poor Mr. Glennon, the Post enters the contradictory testimony of the Adobe Company into the lists.

Thomas Phinney, program manager for fonts for the Adobe company in Seattle, which helped to develop the modern Times New Roman font, disputed Glennon's statement to CBS. He said "fairly extensive testing" had convinced him that the fonts and formatting used in the CBS documents could not have been produced by the most sophisticated IBM typewriters in use in 1972, including the Selectric and the Executive. He said the two systems used fonts of different widths.

It is an unmerciful public flogging; the kind one would not wish upon a donkey. Whether or not Stanley Kurtz's theory (see the previous post) is correct, it is hard to see how CBS can maintain their story a single day longer.


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1 posted on 09/13/2004 9:44:48 PM PDT by GRANGER
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To: GRANGER

>It is an unmerciful public flogging; the kind one would not
>wish upon a donkey.

I care a good deal more for donkeys than for the folks at CBS news...


2 posted on 09/13/2004 9:47:34 PM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: GRANGER

I disagree; they will stick with it for another two weeks at least. Because if they give in the trail leads down and down.


3 posted on 09/13/2004 9:49:52 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: GRANGER

Dan Rather thought he was unleashing Watergate. What he got was Waterloo.


4 posted on 09/13/2004 9:49:56 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: GRANGER

I don't know . . . I'd wish it on quite a few donkeys I know.


5 posted on 09/13/2004 9:50:19 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: GRANGER
But any information system which throws data quality checks overboard or worse, inserts fraudulent data into its stores, is creating a catastrophe for its consumers. It is axiomatic in database applications that it is better to have no data than the wrong data. By insisting on the authenticity of fraudulent documents, CBS is asserting that it is better to have wrong data than no data.

Very well said.

6 posted on 09/13/2004 9:50:58 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: applemac_g4

I'm all for flogging donkeys---ELEPHANTS RULE!!!!!


7 posted on 09/13/2004 9:51:12 PM PDT by sissyjane (Does Rice show up on X-Rays??)
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To: GRANGER

"All hands on deck to witness punishment."


8 posted on 09/13/2004 9:51:17 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand".)
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To: GRANGER

Let there be no end to the public flogging of Rather & Co. until they unconditionally capitulate. Their continuted pushing of these crude forgeries in the face of irrefutable evidence is a disgrace to even the mass media.


9 posted on 09/13/2004 9:55:38 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: GRANGER

What has been happened to Rather, et al. at CBS is that they have entered the flame war arena without any flame retardent gear and, more importantly, with flamethrowers that are completely out of fuel.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 9:56:21 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: GRANGER
It is an unmerciful public flogging; the kind one would not wish upon a donkey.

Depends on the donkey.

11 posted on 09/13/2004 9:56:34 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: nutmeg

bump


12 posted on 09/13/2004 9:58:18 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: GRANGER

bump!


13 posted on 09/13/2004 9:58:54 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: GRANGER

Dan looks as if he could use cheering up. Perhaps as an expression of sympathy I'll mail some fresh memos over to West 57th St.


14 posted on 09/13/2004 9:59:19 PM PDT by ash-housewares
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To: vbmoneyspender
they have entered the flame war arena without any flame retardent gear

It was a smooth move ticking off the blogosphere. Dan Rather couldn't flame his way out of a girl scout chat room devoted to baking cookies.

15 posted on 09/13/2004 9:59:25 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: GRANGER

"It is an unmerciful public flogging; the kind one would not wish upon a donkey."

Another typical media lie.

This "one" wishes the flogging to continue until there is nothing left of CBS or Dan Rather. This one also wishes the flogging to extend and to be increased on all of the donkeys and jackasses in the RAT party.


16 posted on 09/13/2004 9:59:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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To: GRANGER

Neener neener neener!

CBS is going to stick to their story for a long time, perhaps forever and ever. Amen.


17 posted on 09/13/2004 10:01:15 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: GRANGER

78 Reasons Rather is wrong


18 posted on 09/13/2004 10:02:21 PM PDT by vanburen
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To: GRANGER

Gotta love the last para of the WP article:

"Prominent conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh are insisting the documents are forged. New York Times columnist William Safire said yesterday that CBS should agree to an independent investigation. Brent Bozell, president of the Media Research Center, called on the network to apologize, saying: "The CBS story is a hoax and a fraud, and a cheap and sloppy one at that. It boggles the mind that Dan Rather and CBS continue to defend it."


19 posted on 09/13/2004 10:02:33 PM PDT by GRANGER (Must-issue states have safer streets.)
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To: ash-housewares

"Dan looks as if he could use cheering up. Perhaps as an expression of sympathy I'll mail some fresh memos over to West 57th St."

Wouldn't it be FUN for ALL Freepers to send Rather a Termination Letter in Times New Roman with plenty of superscripts, created in Word, of course! And don't forget the PINK paper! What a Freep that would be.


20 posted on 09/13/2004 10:04:47 PM PDT by rocky88 (" John Kerry has no such clear, precise and consistent vision." - Rudy Guiliani)
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