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Silver Star Spot Report Surfaces
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Posted on 09/13/2004 9:08:15 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

Silver Star Spot Report Surfaces

The spot report for John Kerry's Silver Star action has resurfaced at Bandit's Hideout, and it affirms the story told by the Swiftvets while contradicting the later two versions of his citation. Bandit, who has done yeoman work on Kerry's Viet Nam narrative, has posted scans of the two-page document from Newscentral.tv.

Fox News reports that this spot-action report was written by Kerry himself, ironically, since it supports the Swiftvet version of events for the engagement. I've transcribed the relevant portion here:

...While troops conducted sweep, PCF 94 and 23 movefauimkiver [sic] towards area from which Army advisor reported gunshots. PCF 43 remained at original ambush site to provide support for troops. PCF 94 and 23 proceeded to VQ 984831 and then turned to return to PCF 43 location. At VQ 984830 a B-40 rocket exploded in water close aboard PCF 94 blowing out window frame. Both units received heavy small arms fire and OTC aga [sic] called units to turn into fire and charge ambush site. PCF 43 was [redact] and moved immediately to assist. PCF 94 beached in center of ambush in front of small path when VC sprung [sic] up from bunker 10 feet from unit. Man ran with weapon towards hootch. Forward M-60 gunner wounded man in leg. OinC [Kerry] jumped ashore and gave pursuit while other units saturated area with fire and beached placing assault parties ashore. OinC of PCF 94 chased VC inland behind hootch and shot him while he fled capturing one B-40 rocket launcher with round in chamber. ... [description of other units' actions]

While PCF 43 provide [sic] mortar support, PCF 94 and 23 assault parties reconned to VQ 985835 where 3 VC where [sic] observed running from them out of firing range. Assault party could not five pursuit [sic] due to proximity of mortar rounds passing overhead.

Compare this narrative, written immediately after the action, with that given in the Hyland citation. The latter describes conditions that are non-existent in the spot report. For instance, the "numerically superior forces" description doesn't gibe with the information on the first page, which states that each PCF had 30 RFPF troops aboard. They disembarked at VQ984831 and PCF 43 stayed with them while 94 and 23 went upriver and returned to an adjacent spot (VQ984830) where they were ambushed. The only count of VC given were the one man Kerry killed, 3 KIA from an earlier ambush (which the 90 RFPF handled), and two VC who ran off out of firing range after Kerry ran behind the hootch.

This report also contradicts Kerry's contention that the VC was uninjured when he jumped off the boat and chased him down. The report makes clear that the forward gunner shot him with the M-60 in the leg before Kerry jumped out of the PCF. Despite his earlier denial, Kerry did run behind the hootch to kill the VC, out of sight of his crew.

In the Lehman citation, the dead VC behind the hootch disappears completely, although the "numerically superior forces" reappear, even though the only numbers given hardly match the contingents of the three PCFs in the area, let alone the RFPFs ashore in the adjacent area.

When you look at the action on the spot report, it reflects well on the young Lieutenant Kerry. Although it's difficult to see how this action should have resulted in a Silver Star, it would seem a commendation of some sort would be appropriate. It's all of the exaggeration, lies, and paperwork alterations after the fact that calls Kerry's character into serious question.


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To: Sir Gawain

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41 posted on 09/13/2004 11:35:39 PM PDT by RJL
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To: william clark


***Something doesn't look right***

I just checked swiftvets.com and they don't show this news on their website. The comments at the Captain's blog indicate the after action report was among docs released by the Naval Archives.

Why haven't we heard more about this?

Why only an obscure Fox TV station in Baltimore?

Have the Swift Vets addressed this?


42 posted on 09/14/2004 3:00:36 AM PDT by Timeout (Proud, card-carrying member of JAMMIE NATION)
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To: william clark

i agree., this is why i beleive it was started by them on purpose. Watch the news today, even drudge started with it in small print,,,,compared to what he did about the cbs memos. one thing for sure,,,time will tell...we just ahve to pray and hope for best. I have 2 sons, one 13 and one 8. I served., I won't prevent them from serving, but i want them to be serving being repected by the CINC.


43 posted on 09/14/2004 3:19:06 AM PDT by wvromania (CHALLENGE KERRY to release DATE and TIME he Visited Troops at hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sir Gawain

Bump


44 posted on 09/14/2004 4:09:03 AM PDT by Arnold Zephel
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To: wvromania

Any more info? Anyone contacted the Swifties to see if they know about this? Caution until verified is likely the best course.


45 posted on 09/14/2004 6:33:54 AM PDT by snooker
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To: snooker

Covered here too

http://www.hundredpercenter.com/KerrysSilverStar.html


46 posted on 09/14/2004 7:35:22 AM PDT by www.hunderdpercenter.com
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To: www.hunderdpercenter.com

btt


47 posted on 09/14/2004 11:21:57 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

The SwiftVets are definitely aware of this.

Researchers have been on spot since Monday.
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8702

Bandit & NavyChief, a poster from SwiftVets has been very detailed on this topic.
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9121


As well as the March 13th Bronze Star
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9148&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I think as more documents surface from the archives, the better it gets to disprove Kerry. Of course, there will be the Kerry campaign spin, BUT they are the one's saying the "official navy records support Kerry". They couldnt be more wrong if they actually look at the details, and the differences between Kerry's book Tour Of Duty and official documents. John O'Neill is going to be on Hannity tonight describing some of the new events they have discovered.


48 posted on 09/14/2004 12:46:00 PM PDT by jbird33
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To: claudiustg
Does anyone have an explanation for the difference in fonts and justificaton for these SS citations?

Great question.

I've been away from FR for a couple days... so I'm way behind on reading articles and posts. Has there been any other mention of the justification on this citation. It makes absolutely no sense. Hyland was CINCPAC from 30 Nov 1967 - 05 Dec 1970. I know of know typewriter that could justify text, ever. Word processing would be required.

49 posted on 09/15/2004 2:13:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

---Word processing would be required.---

Or it could be typeset.


50 posted on 09/15/2004 3:40:49 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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