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1 posted on 09/09/2004 6:48:24 PM PDT by doug from upland
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LOLOL!! Excellent! :)


2 posted on 09/09/2004 6:50:56 PM PDT by JesseJane
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Kerry Spot [ jim geraghty reporting ]
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ONE MORE ARGUMENT

As much as the Kerry Spot has tried to keep up with this, PowerLine has been on top of this story all day long. That site just presented what ought to be the straw that breaks the camel's back:

In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:
Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job.
But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.


Okay, CBS. The ball's in your court. Explain all this. Make all of this make sense. Don't completely ignore all of this, like you just did on the CBS Evening News.

If CBS ignores this, and gives no counterargument, no defense, then the general public will have no choice but to conclude that the network ran with a hoax - and now refuses to retract a lie.

[Posted 09/09 07:11 PM]


3 posted on 09/09/2004 6:56:32 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Memos are a hoax -- CLICK.
6 posted on 09/09/2004 6:59:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Washington Times report -- CLICK.
7 posted on 09/09/2004 7:04:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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ABC RAISING DOUBTS
8 posted on 09/09/2004 7:05:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Son of late officer questions memos -- CLICK.
9 posted on 09/09/2004 7:07:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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CBS story and big FReeper thread -- CLICK.
10 posted on 09/09/2004 7:08:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Too funny ... LOL


11 posted on 09/09/2004 7:12:45 PM PDT by snooker
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DAUGHTER SAYS BARNES LIED
12 posted on 09/09/2004 7:13:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Is It a Hoax?
The Weekly Standard ^ | Sep 9, 2004 | Stephen F. Hayes


Posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:03 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko


DOCUMENTS CITED Wednesday by 60 Minutes in a widely-publicized expose of George W. Bush's National Guard Service are very likely forgeries, according to several experts on document authenticity and typography. The documents--four memos from Killian to himself or his files written in 1972 and 1973--appear to indicate that Bush refused or ignored orders to have a physical exam required to continue flying. CBS News anchor Dan Rather reported the segment and sourced the documents this way: "60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file," he said. The 60 Minutes story served as the basis for follow-up news reports for dozens of news organizations across the country. The memos were almost immediately questioned in the blog world, with blog Power Line leading the charge.

And according to several forensic document experts contacted by THE WEEKLY STANDARD say the Killian memos appear to be forgeries. Although it is nearly impossible to establish with certainty the authenticity of documents without a careful examination of the originals, several irregularities in the Killian memos suggest that CBS may have been the victim of a hoax.

"These sure look like forgeries," says William Flynn, a forensic document expert widely considered the nation's top analyst of computer-generated documents. Flynn looked at copies of the documents posted on the CBS News website (here, here, here, and here). Flynn says, "I would say it looks very likely that these documents could not have existed" in the early 1970s, when they were allegedly written.

Several other experts agree. "They look mighty suspicious," says a veteran forensic document expert who asked not to be quoted by name. Richard Polt, a Xavier University philosophy professor who operates a website dedicated to typewriters, says that while he is not an expert on typesetting, the documents "look like typical word-processed documents."


14 posted on 09/09/2004 7:32:57 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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DANNY BOY

O Danny Boy, you've ripped your pants in public.
Ben Barnes bought you, and 60 Minutes too.
Your word is mud, your reputation's dyin'.
A fake, a fake you aired and you're so blue.
But come ye back when Bush is re-elected.
Or when your boss is paying out the nose.
'Cause we'll be here exposin' your treachery.
O Danny boy, O Danny boy, thy name is woe.

16 posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:16 PM PDT by asgardshill (By direct order, I LOVE ALAN KEYES!)
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NIGHTLINE SHOW ON FORGERIES
17 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Pretty funny tjere DFU!


18 posted on 09/09/2004 7:51:18 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to see you.)
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One of your best Doug!


19 posted on 09/09/2004 8:05:33 PM PDT by Magnolia (Pennies a day help keep Liberals at bay.....become a monthly donor!)
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Paper Falsehoods (sung to tune of Paper Roses by Marie Osmond)

I realize the ways Dan's lies deceived me
with tender looks that I mistook for truth
So take away the forgeries you gave me
the FReepers found lies and now have the proof.

Paper Falsehoods, Paper Falsehoods,
oh, how real those Falsehoods seemed to Rather.
But they're only, Imitation,
like his imitation news that's blather.

Dan thought that this would be a perfect story.
It seemed so full of promise at the start.
But like a big red rose that's made of paper,
there isn't any truth; its just Windows art.

Paper Falsehoods, Paper Falsehoods,
oh, how real those Falsehoods seemed to Rather.
But they're only, Imitation,
like his propaganda that's just blather.


21 posted on 09/09/2004 8:09:49 PM PDT by mingusthecat (Mingus has again opined. Like any cat, she doesn't really care what YOU think.)
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CBS INTERNAL INVESTIGATION -- CLICK.
22 posted on 09/09/2004 8:24:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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One of your best... loved the Mel Reynold reference.


23 posted on 09/09/2004 8:43:14 PM PDT by MediaMole
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Killian widow on Nightline -- CLICK.
25 posted on 09/09/2004 9:02:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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What do you mean, WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY?


27 posted on 09/09/2004 9:08:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Terrific!!!


28 posted on 09/09/2004 11:38:04 PM PDT by easonc52
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