Posted on 09/07/2004 3:30:51 PM PDT by crushkerry
From crushkerry.com
Did We Just Hear this Right? We just think we heard John Kerry tell Wolf Blitzer that the 1,000 dead in Iraq died fighting in the "war on terror". Can anyone confirm this. If true, how can he say "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time"
Simply because the DemoncRATs are power hungry and will support their go no matter what. It's even more intense now than it was during impeachment. There is literally nothing Kerry could do or have ever done that would disqualify him in the opinion of his most strident supporters. In fact, charges of Treason & supporting the enemy during wartime only adds to the support he enjoys amongst his most strident anti-war, pro-abortion or pro-tax minions.
Its sad to read your post because I agree with everything you wrote. I still feel we are going to get hijacked by these kerry klan.
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Published on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 by Knight-Ridder
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Iraq War Diverting Resources from War on Terror, Experts Say
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by Warren P. Strobel
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WASHINGTON - A growing number of counter-terrorism experts are challenging President Bush's assertion that Iraq is a major battle in the war against terrorism and are questioning whether the U.S. invasion of Iraq has hurt rather than helped the global battle against al-Qaida and its affiliates. Experts who have served in top positions in both Republican and Democratic administrations are increasingly suggesting that the Iraq war has diverted momentum, troops and intelligence resources from the worldwide campaign to destroy the remnants of al-Qaida.
"Fighting Iraq had little to do with fighting the war on terrorism, until we made it (so)," said Richard Clarke, who was a senior White House counter-terrorism official under Bush and President Bill Clinton. There are few objective measures by which to judge the progress of the war on terror, something that makes it difficult to gauge whether the United States is winning or losing the battle. Bush administration officials note that much of al-Qaida's known top leadership has been caught or killed, but even Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, in a much-publicized memo that was leaked last month, said ways of measuring progress are almost nonexistent. "Today, we lack metrics to know if we are winning or losing the global war on terror," Rumsfeld wrote. Yet gauging the status of the war against al-Qaida has taken on fresh urgency with a series of deadly car bombings this month in Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and new threat warnings at home. The war on terror also appears destined to play a major role in next year's presidential campaign, with Bush and his Democratic opponents running dueling television ads on national security issues. Some possible indicators of success or failure are murky, analysts say. Islamic terrorist groups, perhaps with inspiration but not direction from al-Qaida, are striking out at civilian targets in the Muslim world. Their operations, while deadly, appear to some experts to be hurried and without central control, a sign that the war is taking a toll on al-Qaida. It remains unknown, however, whether Osama bin Laden's group can mount another 9-11-style "terrorist spectacular" in the United States. Nor is it known whether bin Laden, his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and other al-Qaida leaders still exercise direct control over the network, or how close they are to being captured. There are worrisome signs that the terrorist threat is regenerating. A United Nations report due out in early December is expected to say that al-Qaida, while probably weakened by U.S.-led assaults, possesses surface-to-air missiles for use against aircraft and is working toward a biological or chemical weapons attack. In Afghanistan, the Taliban militia ousted in late 2001 is resurgent, fueled by an upsurge in opium production. And while terror training camps have been eliminated in Afghanistan, new ones are being established in the Caucasus and the Philippines, former White House officials Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon write in a new afterword to their book, "The Age of Sacred Terror." "From the perspective of counterterrorism professionals, the war in Iraq was not a continuation, but a diversion," they write. No evidence of links between deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida has been made public since the U.S. invasion, despite pre-war claims by top Bush aides that such ties posed a growing threat to the United States. According to current and former officials, the Bush administration diverted precious assets, including U.S. military special operations forces, intelligence operatives and spy satellites from tracking al-Qaida to the war in Iraq. By one official's estimate, half of the special operations and intelligence resources focused on al-Qaida were redirected to support the March 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq. That figure could not be confirmed. Former White House counter-terrorism coordinator Rand Beers, who resigned in March just before the Iraq war began, said that U.S. troops, CIA paramilitary officers and intelligence collection devices were withdrawn from Afghanistan and refurbished for use in the war against Iraq. Beers - who now works for the presidential campaign of Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. - added that war with Iraq added to U.S. difficulties in committing the security force or aid needed to stabilize Afghanistan. "We missed some opportunities," Beers said. Others note that the number of U.S. spy satellites and electronic listening posts is limited as is the number of analysts trained to decipher and translate intercepted messages. While they have no specific information to corroborate their statements, they believe U.S. intelligence is almost certainly listening in on fewer suspected terrorists outside of Iraq as they assign much of their intelligence capabilities to detecting and pre-empting attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq. Steve Cambone, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, insisted that the global war on terrorism has not been hurt by a diversion of resources to Iraq. "The intelligence community writ larger, and the (Pentagon) specifically, continue to do the monitoring, the assessment and are taking the appropriate actions ... in the world writ large," said Cambone, a close associate of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. "At the level of the global war on terrorism, there isn't a lack of focus," he said. Cambone acknowledged that there is a shortage of experts in collecting and analyzing human intelligence within the military services. But he said the Pentagon has instructed each service to institute a crash training program to boost so-called HUMINT teams working in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Another top intelligence official said the CIA, with a finite number of Arabic speakers, paramilitary operators and other assets, has inevitably had to divert resources to the Iraq effort. But "we've struggled mightily not to diminish our counter-terrorism efforts" through reorganization and longer work hours, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The CIA and other intelligence agencies have been flooded with new funds since the Sept. 11 attacks. Kenneth Katzman, a terrorism specialist at the Congressional Research Service, questioned whether the diversion of U.S. troops from Afghanistan makes a difference in the hunt for bin Laden, who is thought to be along the Afghan-Pakistani border. "Ultimately, if bin Laden and Zawahiri are going to be tracked down, probably Pakistani forces are going to have the best chance at that," he said. Bush administration officials point out that there have been major successes against al-Qaida since September 2001. The network's operational leadership is dead, captured or on the run, they say. More than 3,400 terrorist suspects have been detained by over 100 countries, and more than $200 million in terrorist-related finances have been seized. Saudi Arabia has begun a major crackdown on the group and its affiliates. In response, Katzman said, the terrorist network has fragmented into "local al-Qaidas or pro-al-Qaida centers" whose focus appears to be attacks in the Middle East. Terrorists are seeking out new pastures, too. Counter-terrorism expert Magnus Ranstorp of the University of St. Andrews in Scotland recently visited the Tri-Border Area, a lawless region where Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay meet that has been used by Islamic terrorist groups to hide and raise funds. Fifteen minutes after arriving in Paraguay, he said, he was offered explosives and arms - for cash. Knight Ridder Washington correspondent Jonathan S. Landay contributed to this report. © Knight-Ridder 2003 ### |
I do think that Lockhart wants Kerry to win. Begala is an open question, but I do think Paul B hates Bush and would like to see Bush --the embodiment of all he loathes-- got beat. 2008 is a long way away. If Bush is re-elected and the WOT and the economy improve. The Republicans will have improved their standing with the American people in a long lasting way. Begala and the professional Left don't want to see that happen.
I just finished the book, after weeks of looking for a copy. An absolute must read! If the race were between Manson and Kerry, I'd hafta go with Manson.
Im going to donate my copy(after reading) to a swing or democrate who is leaning toward the tall twit.
Try and keep up. That was yesterday. This is today. Tomorrow you'll hear the same thing you heard yesterday. It was a war on terror before it wasn't a war on terror, then it wasn't, now it is again, and tomorrow it won't be. We had to go to war in Iraq because Sodom had WMDs, which he never had, and that's why we shouldn't have gone, so it's a really good thing we went. Is that so complicated?
When I looked into the details of the list back on Memorial Day, over one third did not die in combat and quite a large number of those people were not even in Iraq at the time of their deaths. Some deaths included forklift accidents in Kuwait, electocution, drowning, traffic accidents, heart attacks, pneumonia, and in the most extreme example I saw a woman died while crossing the highway in Kansas (she was on leave).
I do not say this to belittle their contribution to their country or the war effort. I say this because only the left is counting deaths, the government releases the data regardless of cause. Some bean counter on the anti-Iraq War team decides who belongs and who doesn't. They've padded out the list of deaths that they want to blame on George Bush.
If we are going to look at deaths from combat, let's really look at them. 2 officers were murdered by American Sgt. Akbar who was muslim; his trial is still being postponed (now until February 2005 as his team plans an insanity defense). He killed 2 with a grenade attack in their tent and wounded another 12 men. How about the men who died when some Iraqi soldiers faked a surrender only to gun them down?
The left said that we would lose tens of thousands. They also said that Iraq would lose over a million citizens (civilian/military). They are only in the tens of thousands (maybe still under 20k).
Welcome to the land of the informed.
I cannot see how anyone could read that book and continue to support Kerry.
If I recall my recent history correctly, didn't the Bush Administration bill Iraq as the next theater in the war on terror? From the get go the 'Rats always tried to make it seem as a separate and unrelated endeavor. They were overwhelmingly successful in that the media--paleo and neo--all refer to them as separate, and all the polls treat them separately. Those of us who saw them as collected were chided as dolts.
One has to hand it to Bush et al. for being able to start a big PR turnaround to the point of even convincing Kerry. I can't help, however, thinking that letting the wrong impression take hold in the first place was a big mistake. But, perhaps they gave the 'Rats plenty of rope with which they can now hang themselves.
What a sick bastard indeed that would base his whole strategy on
"what's good for Me is bad for America".
I'm beginning to hope he rots in hell!!
Give it to a swing. The dem will burn it. I've tried talking to dem relatives, and they don't care what kerry did, or who he is. All they care about is that he isn't Bush. They're okay with putting a traitor in the White House. It would be okay if they watched him bite the heads off puppies. They'd still vote for him. They know what he did and what he wants to do. They actually hate kerry, but they're going to vote for him, because he's not Bush. Don't waste the book on one of them. They will burn it.
please, tell them to stay home or vote for nader. had to send a friend of 8 years packing. come on- he supported, dean, clark, and the list of idiots goes on. his mind set- everyone gets a break but him.
I'm sure these wonks would do a far better job of managing a war that threatens to destroy civilization as we know it.
On the way home tonite at 5:30PM EST, I heard John Belmont, AP News, on the local talk/news station, www.wsba910.com, say, "America has reached the 1,000 milestone who have been sacrificed in Iraq".
I almost drove into a phone pole! I almost pulled my Kimber "Eclipse Target II" 1911A1 .45cal ACP and shot the radio.
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Left-wing, wacko, lowlife, hate-America, subhuman, hate-Bush, garbage, trash, filth dominating the radio and most media.
The Fourth Estate® is The Enemy Within.
Begala, Joe Lockhart, James Carville, etc are on a mission to destroy the Kerry campaign from within. Cahill has already been shown to a window seat, access to Kerry is being controlled by the Clintonista's who now seem to be the people with the seats on the airplane .
Bill Clinton calls up and tells Kerry to stop mentioning Vietnam before his surgery. Where does that leave Kerry? Kerry can't run on his Senate record, he can't run as anti-war, he can't run on anything but his 3.5 months in Vietnam and I'm a genuine war hero mantra but the Swifties and now Bill Clinton have taking Vietnam off the table.
More importantly Bill and Hill have taken themselves out of Kerry's campaign for the duration. (I still want to see the surgical scars).
All I can say is that Kerry is up a tree on a very thin branch and if he can't hear the sawing he is either deaf, a total maroon or both.
This is a typical response from a typical liberal leftist frothing at the mouth Democrat for Kerry. Note the blatant hypocrisy. I want a world free of war so I'm voting for Kerry, but don't piss me off and don't mess with MY children!
http://fray.slate.msn.com/?id=3936&m=12052182
http://fray.slate.msn.com/?id=3936&m=12051189
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