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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Yes, I have heard of the national sales tax idea, and I am NOT proposing it because it is too big a change in responsibility levels.

The trouble I see with sales tax is that it rubs the tax in the face of each purchasing consumer at the point of purchase. There are people who will see that the taxes go to pay for our infrastructure and that is the price we pay for a civil society, but there is a very large group who will not see that, They will focus on the added charge to the bill in front of them and they will freak. they are typically democrats BTW.

An excise tax, on the other hand, we have had for over 200 years and is a much more digestable tax for the average citizen. Everyone knows at some level that there are large taxes on liquor, but nobody has the fact that the liquor bottle they are buying for $20 has about $18 in taxes in it. People have gotten used to the tax, they don't object too loudly to it and life goes on.

If you want to focus on a sales tax as the method, it will work and everything said in that video is true, except that it will never get beyond a pep rally of republicans, because the democrats will kill it every time.

I just want to be practical, and maybe see motion towards this concept before the parasitic losses to taxes destroys my kids America.

5 posted on 08/29/2004 8:47:21 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: det dweller too
The trouble I see with sales tax is that it rubs the tax in the face of each purchasing consumer at the point of purchase. There are people who will see that the taxes go to pay for our infrastructure and that is the price we pay for a civil society, but there is a very large group who will not see that, They will focus on the added charge to the bill in front of them and they will freak. they are typically democrats BTW.

That is why I like it, I want every citizen to be fully aware of the cost of government because that is the best way to get them to try and reign it back in.

6 posted on 08/29/2004 8:54:09 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: det dweller too
Quick Facts

Discussions with focus groups of Americans showed that what citizens want is a tax system that provides Simplicity, Uniformity, Visibility and Fairness. The FairTax achieves these objectives through:

Simplicity - one rate for everyone; no tax filings

Uniformity - all benefits, all regulations, all exceptions, imposed on all citizens equally

Visibility - any change in the tax rate shows on every cash register receipt

Fairness - it is progressive, protecting the poor through a tax rebate on the necessities of life; no loopholes, therefore everyone pays the same rate on every purchase

And in addition, the FairTax produces the following:

* It lets every worker keep their entire pay check - no payroll or income taxes

* It allows those at/below the poverty level to have zero or negative taxes

* It lets retirees keep their full pension or Social Security checks - untaxed

* It lets everyone keep their capital gains and investment income - untaxed

* It encourages savings & investment - creating greater national growth & productivity

* It encourages repatriation of wealth from tax havens

* It stimulates exports - leading to greater U.S. employment

* It stimulates economic growth and job formation

* It eliminates gift and inheritance taxes

* It taxes spending of gifted and inherited wealth more fairly

* It has a lower cost of enforcement

* It makes the federal tax rate very visible, and therefore, politically risky to increase

* It ends all personal and corporate income tax filings

* It eliminates the IRS and frees $8 Billion

* It frees the $250 Billion tax accounting/law industry for more productive employment

* It eliminates tax loopholes - no filings, no exemptions, no loopholes

13 posted on 08/29/2004 10:28:35 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: det dweller too

"The trouble I see with sales tax is that it rubs the tax in the face of each purchasing consumer at the point of purchase. There are people who will see that the taxes go to pay for our infrastructure and that is the price we pay for a civil society, but there is a very large group who will not see that, They will focus on the added charge to the bill in front of them and they will freak. they are typically democrats BTW."

And just what is the negative aspect of making EVERY citizen aware of the cost of the entitlements they demand from the politicians? What is wrong with pointing out the blatant hypocricy of the moochers?

"If you want to focus on a sales tax as the method, it will work and everything said in that video is true, except that it will never get beyond a pep rally of republicans, because the democrats will kill it every time."

With all three branches controlled by "Republicans" why would this be an issue? Could it be because the Republicans are no longer conservative and are just as interested in bribery of the electorate as the Democrats?

The NRST is not only a tool to restore the freedom to enjoy the fruits of our effort, it could also be a tool to take back the Republican party! Vote for true Conservatives, and utilize HR25 as one of the identifiers available!


15 posted on 08/30/2004 6:27:58 AM PDT by CSM (To spread the wealth the liberal is willing, he'll take YOUR dollar and keep his shilling. -albertp)
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