Win an argument with a liberal? Well, as a teacher of Rhetoric I am well aware of the importants of facts, the art of persuasion, the beauty of masterful debate . . . but Democrats rely solely upon the ad hominem arguement delivered with highly emotional invective aimed at the personal destruction of their opponents. Trying to win any reasoned argument with them is folly. Reason is not in their lexicaon.
And you didn't even need to meet the fellow! He pulls the usual "say it louder and it must be true" routine. I decided not to argue with him and wait until I could produce some documentation.