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Alston Never Served Under Kerry
Captain's Quarters ^ | 8/14/2004 | captain ed

Posted on 08/14/2004 7:15:31 AM PDT by stayout

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To: El Gato
Good analysis. It is too bad that Kerry is
so untrustworthy that any of the speculation is even necessary.
101 posted on 08/14/2004 8:58:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Diogenesis

Actually three. The dude in the middle shows his shadow straight down. THis could not be accomplished, even with spotlights to the left and right and those would tend to cancel out ALL shadows.


102 posted on 08/14/2004 8:59:05 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Diogenesis

FUnny - I was just studying that picture and picked up on the shadows -

The two guys on the left - The three guys on the left, including Alston, have shadows that fall towards the right side of the picture, whereas Kerry and the other guy (with the different camo pants and white shirt) have shadows falling more towards the left.


103 posted on 08/14/2004 9:00:37 AM PDT by TheBattman (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The potatoes were used to battle against the mean rice that was fired from shore.


104 posted on 08/14/2004 9:02:42 AM PDT by tsmith130 (Making one's enemies suffer is currently an under-valued activity.)
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To: dennisw

Someone on another thread postulated that this photo may have been "Photoshopped" to produce the picture of Kerry in the same shot as Alston. I believe that idea was discounted, but I'm not so sure. In the photo, Kerry himself appears completely detached from the rest of the subjects; as if he's not even aware of them, or them of him. Look, too, at that weird object upon which Kerry's elbow is resting. What is it? If you enlarge it, it appears to be a formless mass that simply melds into the background. Very suspicious, in my opinion.

105 posted on 08/14/2004 9:05:06 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: dennisw

Look at the nose and head shadows of Kerry and the man next to him and then the nose and head shadows of the man in the middle. Kerry and the man in the middle have their heads oriented almost the same way yet show different shadows. It's been a long time since I studied portrait lighting and I forget the terminology, but nose shadows are very important to portrait photographers and I think it would take different lighting setups to produce the different nose shadows.


106 posted on 08/14/2004 9:07:12 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Cboldt
Or there was a flashbulb.

I doubt a flash was used; it's a bright sunny day.

107 posted on 08/14/2004 9:12:54 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: stayout

In the Komrades defense, perhaps the memory wasn't quite seared and he in fact was only *near* Alston.....


108 posted on 08/14/2004 9:23:22 AM PDT by 30 something american (never argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: stayout

bttt


109 posted on 08/14/2004 9:29:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: stayout
Alston received his serious wounds in that same exact battle that took Peck out of service.

Alston's wounds were a small shrapnel wound to the back of the head. Described as light in other reports. He could and probably did come back to the boat. It looks so bad because he is a Keloid scar type.

TILL SOMEONE COMES UP WITH PROOF THAT HE WASN'T THERE WE DON'T NEED TO BAIT THE PRESS INTO RAISING #e!! ABOUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISPROVED.

The bandit's two threads contradict each other about Alston's whereabouts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189173/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1187030/posts

Read them for yourself. Let's not over reach until there is solid evidence.

110 posted on 08/14/2004 9:33:17 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

At least the shadows are consistent!


111 posted on 08/14/2004 9:41:34 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Nov3

A picture of Kerry's crew in March 1969 can be found here:

http://www.wordiq.com/knowledge/upload/thumb/3/33/248px-Kerry_with_crew3.jpg

It shows that Alston was not a member of Kerry's crew in March 1969.


112 posted on 08/14/2004 9:49:16 AM PDT by Number_Cruncher
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To: Lady Jag; Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; writer33; GreyFriar; americanmother; The Mayor; ...

Excellent post.


113 posted on 08/14/2004 9:49:48 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Bob
I didn't think Swift boats had any sort of galley. Why in the world would a sack of potatoes be on a Swift boat?

If you'll go to this PCF-45 Link and go to the Boat tour link, you'll see that PCFs did indeed have a galley. They even had a refrigerator.

114 posted on 08/14/2004 9:53:57 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Cboldt
They met, and the picture is not doctored. The falsehood is that Alston served under Kerry. Another falshood is that Alston was injured in action that in any way involved Kerry.

In fact, isn't that photo prime evidence that "served with" includes the crews from the different boats who functioned in a larger group than just a single boat? a group that shared quarters, meals, and photo ops together?

115 posted on 08/14/2004 9:55:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: Diogenesis

Alston is casting a shadow on Belodeau's arm that is consistent with Thorson's shadow but not with Kerry's.

I think there's an orca rising between Sandusky and Kerry but I could be wrong.


116 posted on 08/14/2004 9:59:59 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Number_Cruncher

It shows that Alston was not a member of Kerry's crew in March. Was he in January or February? I don't know and no one has presented evidence that he was somewhere else. I would absolutely love it if they did but I have not seen it. The only evidence I saw was that he was hit before Kerry took over. That is not proof we can go in front of the press with.


117 posted on 08/14/2004 10:02:06 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: El Gato

Thanks for the link. I stand corrected. I can't get the page to load but I'll dig into it. Thanks again.


118 posted on 08/14/2004 10:03:00 AM PDT by Bob (From an old commercial: "Don't forget between the toes, Johnny.")
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To: Nov3

I heartily agree with you. It's like a trial - if the prosecutors have a lot of strong evidence but then get greedy and throw in some stuff that can be easily discredited or at least made to seem doubtful, then the defense will simply pounce on that and use it to cast doubt on everything else. And of course we know the MSM will focus solely on any weak points in the Swiftvets V Kerry case and will use that to obscure the more damning parts.

Finally, i'd be careful relying too heavily on the Vietnam War records as i've heard that they weren't always 100% accurate.


119 posted on 08/14/2004 10:03:05 AM PDT by Humbug (please don't read this tag yet...it's not quite ready)
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To: NonValueAdded
In fact, isn't that photo prime evidence that "served with" includes the crews from the different boats who functioned in a larger group than just a single boat? a group that shared quarters, meals, and photo ops together?

Indeed, it is. But the "didn't serve together" canard is a relatively easy one to refute. As usual, Camp Kerry is trying to have it both ways.

120 posted on 08/14/2004 10:11:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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