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Evidence Shows Crewmate Rev. Alston Never Served Under Sen. Kerry
August 10, 2004 | The Bandit

Posted on 08/10/2004 10:21:42 PM PDT by The Bandit

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To: mewzilla
Well, Kerry's flack this morning on FNC just retracted the Cambodia lie...er, story. I think critical mass has just been reached.

This is big news ... since Kerry went on the floor of the senate and indicated that he vividly remembered he was in this country in 1968. That shows he lied to congress and under oath I would think!

I wonder if Kerry is going to come out and say he was in this country but just at another time ... hmmm ...

121 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:04 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: The Bandit

Alston spoke at the convention. If this is true, it is big. I would also send to SBVFT.


122 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: smoothsailing

Is it too late for this old grannie to give you a heartfelt thank you for your service?


123 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: sirchtruth
I really wish people would get off this VN crap! ... FWIW, this is a bogus issue whether or not Kerry is lying about it.

I don't see attacks coming against his Senate career. Where is the action from the people who can bring Kerry down with his Senate record? Bring it on!!!!!

124 posted on 08/11/2004 5:54:30 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mewzilla

The media will allow Kerry to say he was 'near' Cambodia and ignore the President Nixon connection. Hoping we'll forget the part where Kerry says the experience is SEARED IN HIS MEMORY.


125 posted on 08/11/2004 5:58:05 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: OldFriend

The lamestream can try :) I hope they do, actually. Kerry and his useful idiots in the press can all circle the bowl together...


126 posted on 08/11/2004 5:59:31 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Cboldt
Where is the action from the people who can bring Kerry down with his Senate record? Bring it on!!!!!

Kerry himself! He spent 4 months in VN. He has been a senator for 20+ years.

Name one thing he has done as a senator?

127 posted on 08/11/2004 6:03:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: Mo1

Need to watch for red herrings the DNC may toss out there for us to catch and run with that the DNC can factually disqualify.....thus throwing a wet blanket over all true facts.


128 posted on 08/11/2004 6:05:49 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (DIRECT)
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To: The Bandit

Could it be as simple as a typo on the casualty report? Or even poor handwriting? Sometimes a 9 can look like a 4 and vice versa.


129 posted on 08/11/2004 6:07:48 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: The Bandit

bump


130 posted on 08/11/2004 6:13:32 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: hawkaw
That shows he lied to congress and under oath I would think!

Where does the "under oath" part come from? While he did lie in his senate speech, they aren't put under oath before they speak there.

To the best of my knowledge, none of his claims have ever been made under oath. (This contrasts with the Swift boat vets who were under oath when they made their affidavits.)

131 posted on 08/11/2004 6:15:06 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
Where does the "under oath" part come from? While he did lie in his senate speech, they aren't put under oath before they speak there.

That's why I put ... I think at the end of the sentence. Are you telling me there is no law to prevent a senator from speaking on the floor of the senate and knowingly misleading congress?

132 posted on 08/11/2004 6:19:22 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: The Bandit
Only problem with the above statements is that the are flat out false because David Alston was never a crew member under Sen. Kerry nor could he had ever participated in combat operations with Sen. Kerry because they were from two different boats.

In the interest of keeping a consistent argument, the bolded portion of the above statement would negate almost every member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. It is undeniable that Kerry and Alston made misleading statements about serving on the same boat, which calls their credibility into question, but (in the interest of accuracy and consistency), they could have been involved in combat operations together while serving on different boats, since those boats worked in close support of one another.

133 posted on 08/11/2004 6:21:19 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: xzins
Does anyone know Kerry's various rank at any given year of his military service?

Ensign 16 Dec 1966

LTJG 16 June 1968

LT 1 Jan 1970

Transferred from active duty: Jan 3, 1970

134 posted on 08/11/2004 6:24:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The Bandit
If I recall correctly, didn't the Kerry campaign have to take off a story about a battle the PCF 94 was engaged in, because it was with Peck as skipper. If this is the same battle as the one Alston was wounded, this story has some legs.

The only possibility that Alston is in the photo with Kerry's regular crew, is that Alston was filling in for someone temporarily. If you look at the various rosters, for individual boats, you can see that some folks served on multiple boats.

135 posted on 08/11/2004 6:28:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: xzins
I always louse up the Navy ranks. And don't even go to the enlisted. They've got more letters and numbers than a code sheet.

Navy enlisted ranks look more confusing than they really are.

The letter codes indicate a sailor's rating (his specialty) and not his rank. A Machinist's Mate First Class (MM1), a Hospitalman First Class (HM1), any any other specialty (xx1) all have the same rank (E6) but with different training and skills.

In a way, a sailor wears his MOS (I think we called them 'job codes', though) on his sleeve. It's part of the insignia on most uniform types.

136 posted on 08/11/2004 6:32:31 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Cold Heat

A general on FNC last night addresssed this issue. Very well I might add. It boils down to the definition of "with." I suspect Kerry learned his lessons from Clintonisms well. If men served in the same group (I don't remember the proper name for it), they considered themselves serving with one another. This general said that he "served with" over 800 other soldiers, but he didn't know all of them. The boats were another situation. More than one almost always went out together to cover for one another. The men in all the boats were in the same group. Also being on the same boat didn't mean that they knew more about someone else on their boat than someone from another one. You might have one man on one side of the boat and the man in question on the other; the first man wouldn't necessarily see him at all, wheras another man on another boat may have that man in his sights during an entire action and know much more about he behaved than the other men on his own boat. So I think we have to be careful and use the language as the men did who served in the armed forces in VN.


137 posted on 08/11/2004 6:34:03 AM PDT by twigs
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To: The Bandit
did anyone see Jeh Johnson, an advisor to the hamster boy campaign on Fox and Friends this morning ?

Johnson says Kerry is now saying he was mistaken about being in Cambodia on Christmas '68. He was NEAR Cambodia and was IN Cambodia on a LATER date.

Here we go ................


138 posted on 08/11/2004 6:36:03 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Alston spoke at the DNC and detailed his experience with Kerry in an impassioned speech.


139 posted on 08/11/2004 6:40:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: The Bandit

Interesting info. I think we can assume everything about John Fraud Kerry is a lie. What a Lounge Lizard.

CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE BUMP:
Pat Buchanan had O'Neil on Scarborough Country last night for most of the program and they absolutely inviserated Kerry. Then a couple of RATliars came on and Pat destroyed them too. My hat is off to Pat for a change, he did a magnificent job. It was revealed that Kerry's Silver Star was awarded without the requisite three witnesses and was never certified. It was granted on the recommendation of his commander based only upon KERRY'S testimony. He has since said had he known what actually happened he would have never given the recommendation. Sick crap.


140 posted on 08/11/2004 6:41:41 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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