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To: Coleus
I thought simply because it was time and I wanted to have a baby it would work out.

Sadly, I find this attitude to be commonplace. We pray, "Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven," not, "my will be done," although this is how we often behave.

The critique of IVF is right on the money:

There are an average of 24 embryos destroyed or frozen in order for one IVF baby to be born. The moral principle violated by this procedure is the most fundamental of all moral tenets: one can never do an evil in order that good may come of it.

226 posted on 07/27/2004 4:53:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

Sadly, moral principles are no longer traced back to the Creator of Life, but are to be manipulated in a transactional way, to be framed to suit the desires of the humans defining the moral principles. Abortion is the willful killing of an alive other individual human being who is on life support (and in thousands of cases each year, able to live amongst us without the uterus of his or her mother, but killed anyway because the democrats defend tirelessly 'a woman's right to hire a serial killer'). Exploiting embryo-aged human beings and snuffing out the life in those embryos just to obtain one or two successful implantations is also willful killing. And the dissection of alive embryo-aged humans in order to get at their body parts for experimentation is also willful killing of alive other humans, just very young humans. With the current course the liberal pukes have installed in this nation, the democrat party will have many Pubbie partners in pushing US down the clone and kill road, as if killing the very young willfully is enlightened if the killing is goal oriented. It's disgusting but it is the legacy of the democrat party, or what the democrap party has become! Zell Miller wouldn't disagree and R. Reagan said the party left his conservative values, it was not he who left the party. Clinton and his liberal lying minions have thoroughly corrupted this nation and we may not recover from them.


235 posted on 07/27/2004 8:19:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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