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Rumsfield will APOLOGIZE to CONGRESS today! I'm going to be SICK!!!
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Posted on 05/07/2004 5:36:02 AM PDT by kcvl

I think I'll PUKE!


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To: kcvl
Why are you going to be sick? He SHOULD apologize for what has happened under his watch.
81 posted on 05/07/2004 6:11:14 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: kcvl
My big concern is this war is slowing, but surely getting too D**M political. All these apologies only strenghten that trend. We MUST win this war and NOT from Washington. Let our Military do it's job D**mit.
82 posted on 05/07/2004 6:11:43 AM PDT by BiteMedems (Proud Voter of GWB Term One and Term Two)
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To: kcvl
You are going to be sick so you post a one line vanity rant? What is this, DU?

83 posted on 05/07/2004 6:12:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: Heff
If they ran THIS Kerry's career would be over today.
84 posted on 05/07/2004 6:12:56 AM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted - and to see our lovely spokesmodel))
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To: BiteMedems
Let our Military do it's job

Is torturing prisoners part of its job?

85 posted on 05/07/2004 6:13:27 AM PDT by Know your rights
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To: CedarDave
Too much apologizing goin' on for my liking.

Agreed. Why don't the Dems line up, pull down their pants & let Rummy kiss their butts? That is EXACTLY what they want. THEY STILL WOULDN'T BE HAPPY! The libs are only out to win, nothing more. They don't give a rat's behind about the country.

The apologizing makes us look weak & an easy target to sway an election to the Al-quaeda types. Am I jumping to a conclusion here?

86 posted on 05/07/2004 6:14:27 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Know your rights
If that is what it takes to keep my family safe from TERRORISTS, YES, you are damn right we should do WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN against RELIGIOUS FREAKS. They started it and we should finish it like YESTERDAY!

Like I said let me know when someone you know DIES for this SO-CALLED WAR! Obviously, no one said you couldn't speak about any of this. Either fight a war or get out. We don't pause for a MURDEROUS THUG'S RELIGION! We drop a bomb on his *ss whatever day it happens to be!

87 posted on 05/07/2004 6:14:42 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Piquaboy
don't apologize for something you did not have direct control over.

As Commander in Chief, Bush is responsible. As SecDef, Rumsfeld is responsible. That's the way it is.

88 posted on 05/07/2004 6:15:03 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Poohbah
It's not a "he" jerk!
89 posted on 05/07/2004 6:15:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
How can this country talks about "winning the hearts and the minds" of the Iraqi people, and be faced with this humiliating pictures, and no one calls for heads to roll. I expected people on our side, the Republican side to be more upset with this pictures as they destroyed all the good deed that we have done for the Iraqis, and allowed a field day for the Arabic media to rightfully, I might add, dump on us.

Idiots like you who think that you are going to puke just because Rumsfeld is going to apologize are simply inhumane! I am not saying that Rumsfeld has personally ordered the humiliation of the prisoners and he deserves punishment. I am simply saying no one is ordering Rumsfeld to strip naked and be dragged by a leash, simply apology does not cost him any thing, and it goes a long way of soothing the anger that we are paying 200 billion dollars to reform.

One of the guys who was stripped naked, and forced on a pile of naked guys, while a lesbo American soldier is laughing was interviewed, and his crime to deserve such treatment was that he was a passenger in a car that was stopped at a check point and found that it was stolen. The guy simply accepted a ride from another guy who may or may not have a stolen car. For that, he was to strip naked and be humiliated in front of a laughing lesbian bitch. The guy is still saying that he was glad that the US liberated his country from Saddam, but in the same time, he said that when Saddam put him in prison a few years before, he was not humiliated that much by his goons. Jesus said by the same measuring cup that you give it would be given back to you. We were not happy when our soldiers were burned and hanged by barbarians, and the rest of the world was also unhappy. Now, we should have the integrity, as our President is showing humility, and sorrow for the barbaric behaviors of a very small number of our military. Thank Clinton for inviting “don’t ask don’t tell”; it brought lots of lesbians low life type to the military.

90 posted on 05/07/2004 6:15:34 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: r9etb
Fox News alert...
91 posted on 05/07/2004 6:15:41 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: TomGuy
We are at war with them.

We are not them.
92 posted on 05/07/2004 6:15:48 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: BiteMedems
My big concern is this war is slowing, but surely getting too D**M political.

"War is politics by other means." -- Clausewitz

Let our Military do it's job D**mit.

I can't find "violating every order ever written about handling prisoners" in the military's job description...

93 posted on 05/07/2004 6:16:22 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: kcvl
I predict Rummy will establish a new paradigm for "apologies". By the end of his testimony he will have congress apologizing to him for this stupid political trick.

Aragona
94 posted on 05/07/2004 6:16:34 AM PDT by aragona (Support GWB!)
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To: kcvl
As well he ought to. And I hope he apologized to the President as well.

This entire affair is a stain on the military establishment and thus on the Secretary of Defense.

First, for not seeing that the conditions were ripe for this type of behavior to be possible.

Second, for not taking quick and decisive actions the very first time it raised its ugly head.

Third, for trying to keep it under wraps and not disclosing it to the Commander in Chief and the Congressional defense committees.

And finally, for handing the Democrats a an election year issue.

95 posted on 05/07/2004 6:16:38 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: madison10
Am I jumping to a conclusion here?

Yes, you are...

96 posted on 05/07/2004 6:16:46 AM PDT by carton253 (I don't do nuance)
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To: HairOfTheDog
KMA!
97 posted on 05/07/2004 6:17:03 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: HairOfTheDog; hchutch
Thank you for the new tag line.
98 posted on 05/07/2004 6:17:21 AM PDT by Poohbah (We are at war with them. We are not them.)
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To: kcvl
That's what the press is saying. Let's wait and see what actually happens. Remember, the media isn't always right and doesn't always have the inside scoop on things. I tend to wait until I see it myself before I believe anything they come out with.

One Pentagon insider, and author of a Rumsfeld bio was just on Fox & Friends. He said that according to the info he's gotten, Rumsfeld hadn't even seen the pictures and didn't know CBS was going to publish them. I'd still like to know who is responsible for providing the press with these photos.

This author also said that an MP turned the pics over to a higher-up. He had been assigned to the prison and stated that the pics had been passed around on CD-ROM by those at the prison. When he saw them, he knew it wasn't right and so turned it over to a superior.

The author also said that Rumsfeld isn't going anywhere, and that if we got rid of our Defense Secretary's every time somebody down the chain of command committed a crime or violation, we'd never have a sitting Secretary of Defense.

The bottom line he said, is that the Pentagon followed the appropriate steps in pursuing these allegations and conducting the proper investigations.

Last night on Brit Hume's show, Mort Kondracke mentioned that the reason Rumsfeld hadn't said anything about it to Congress in his last briefing to them was because the General in charge hadn't yet signed off on the investigation report. How appropriate would it have been for Rumsfeld to put anything out on it prior to the General reviewing and approving the final report.

99 posted on 05/07/2004 6:17:22 AM PDT by mass55th
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