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Iraqis: Please Pardon Our Women
The World According to Imal ^ | May 6, 2004 | Imal

Posted on 05/06/2004 8:04:04 PM PDT by Imal

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I think we're being played.
1 posted on 05/06/2004 8:04:04 PM PDT by Imal
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To: Imal
LOL! You are bad; go stand in the corner for one minute!
2 posted on 05/06/2004 8:33:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mhking; JohnHuang2; randog
Ping! Submitted for your consideration.
3 posted on 05/06/2004 8:38:40 PM PDT by Imal (If you oppose what our troops are doing, you are opposing our troops.)
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To: Imal
Whether it's true or not, that's a great read.

But even if it isn't a psyop, everything else you say is right on. I'd give anything to have seen the look on any jihadi's face when he saw those pictures of the grinning bulldyke with the Marlboro Red hanging out of her mouth standing in front of the pile of naked Islamists playing Twister...

The thought of it puts a big ol' smile on my face.
4 posted on 05/06/2004 8:43:03 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't fight for this President, you'll get the government you deserve.)
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To: Imal
Specifically, being humiliated by women is terrifying to them. They value their masculinity, bravado and machismo above all, and are consequently very insecure about it.

You're absolutely correct, Imal. Having spent some time in the ME, I can say that muslim machismo rivals that seen in Central and South American countries. Muslim countries are very patriarchal, so to have a woman dominating you is a punishment worse than death.

I haven't spent much time on this whole prisoner-humiliation thing until today, when I took some time to study the pictures. The first thing that jumped out at me was the point I just discussed--this is a very humiliating thing for a muslim man. Secondly, I had to wonder just how these pictures were (a) allowed to be taken, and (b) how they were released since it was known that they were taken (smile for the camera!). Like you, I suspected that this might be a setup, especially when I saw that frail girl (Lindy?) holding a strapping Iraqi man on a leash. We can't bury them in pigskins, so we went for the next best thing. I think your theory has merit.

5 posted on 05/06/2004 9:04:52 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I'd give anything to have seen the look on any jihadi's face when he saw those pictures of the grinning bulldyke with the Marlboro Red hanging out of her mouth[...]

Umm, you forget, the jihadi's don't think a woman is able to do anything. They will automatically assume that these are the 'transgendered' men that they've read so much about in the newspapers that document how degenerate the west is. Or they'll assume that there are armed men out of camera shot with weapons trained on the prisoners.

And they'll do what a lot of Arabs have done so far.. They'll laugh at the pictures. Because, let's be honest, is naked twister all that imposing compared to losing a hand for theft?
6 posted on 05/06/2004 11:45:20 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
"...the grinning bulldyke..."

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, there are reports that she is now pregnant and engaged to Graner.

7 posted on 05/06/2004 11:52:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Imal
bttt
8 posted on 05/07/2004 12:58:18 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Imal
As this "scandal de jour" winds on, and the media get even more shrill, I remember the prayer of the minister at the Bush inauguration and remind myself that "an angel directs the whirlwind" of the Bush presidency.

Before the "prisoner abuse" scandal, little jihad Johnny might be looking at Al Jazeera and seeing Iraqi insurgents dragging mutilated bodies of Americans through the town to the cheers of their neighbors. He might then be inspired to do this when he grows up.

When Al Jazeera replaces these faces of triumphant insurgents with the hooded naked bodies of Iraqi prisoners with American women soldiers pointing at their genitals and smirking, all of a sudden growing up to be a jihadi has lost its lure.

9 posted on 05/07/2004 2:55:26 AM PDT by HateBill
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To: hobbes1; dubyaismypresident
hmmmmm.....
10 posted on 05/07/2004 5:10:10 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
yep, this is one funny, insightful read....I know I laughed, and it was welcome after Fallujah...
11 posted on 05/07/2004 5:22:22 AM PDT by tioga (2 days till the beach!)
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To: xsmommy
LMAO. I made this point to someone last night. However, this is a double edged sword, if true.

It may deter someone who is aready half hearted form getting involved, but once someone is involved they will fight a whole lot harder to avoid capture.......
12 posted on 05/07/2004 5:27:20 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: NCjim
Mark for later...
13 posted on 05/07/2004 6:28:07 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: Imal; Eaker
Interesting view Ping.
15 posted on 05/07/2004 7:06:42 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: HateBill
little jihad Johnny might be looking at Al Jazeera and seeing Iraqi insurgents dragging mutilated bodies of Americans through the town to the cheers of their neighbors. He might then be inspired to do this when he grows up.

When Al Jazeera replaces these faces of triumphant insurgents with the hooded naked bodies of Iraqi prisoners with American women soldiers pointing at their genitals and smirking, all of a sudden growing up to be a jihadi has lost its lure.

I am against this barbaric behaviors by our military, however, you bring a new angle to this! If humiliating these Moslems in front of a "half a human" would make the jihadists rethink before signing in, then, I am for it. Remember Islam consider one woman to be equal to half of a man!

16 posted on 05/07/2004 7:29:45 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: humblegunner
Yes it is.

I don't really see the value, but it is interesting.

17 posted on 05/07/2004 7:43:29 AM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: HateBill
If this is psyops revenge, it's scary. It means we're at one and the same time, much better, and much worse, than I ever imagined.

Before the "prisoner abuse" scandal, little jihad Johnny might be looking at Al Jazeera and seeing Iraqi insurgents dragging mutilated bodies of Americans through the town to the cheers of their neighbors. He might then be inspired to do this when he grows up.

When Al Jazeera replaces these faces of triumphant insurgents with the hooded naked bodies of Iraqi prisoners with American women soldiers pointing at their genitals and smirking, all of a sudden growing up to be a jihadi has lost its lure.

18 posted on 05/07/2004 7:45:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Imal
Great post and great insights.

If you think about it these guys have no "real" motive for fighting us. We aren't trying to rape their women or steal their property. If they want us out, the rational thing to do is wait until June 30, constitute a government and ask us to leave.

So, what is the motivation for the teenaged foot-soldiers to fight? As far as I can tell, it's for status in the gang. So much for that now.

19 posted on 05/07/2004 8:04:19 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: HateBill
Excellent point.
20 posted on 05/07/2004 8:14:11 AM PDT by diotima (Juke Box Hero)
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