[raysol]

Au contraire.They were prescient about human nature,empire
& tyranny as they lived under it & their principles are so
timeless.Standing armies remain the bane of liberty now as
then to US & the rest of the planet & to hold they would
accept having our troops playing globalcop in 100 plus lands is nuts.Its thats limited govt then I dont want to
consider what unlimited govt would be.That so many of my fellow citizens substitute their own judgement over the
framers who were the best & brightest America has had then or now & I can count on one hand those in US today who could hold a candle to them or are in their league.

[King Prout]

oh, wow, you are still among the living.

the founding fathers could not have predicted ICBMs, nukes, bombers, telecommunications-based espionage, global national interests based on need (not want: NEED) for specific natural resources unavailable domestically, biowarfare, etc...

If the US did not have a potent standing army and, yes, and empire of sorts, there would be no US. We would have been swamped and eaten by nations which DID have those attributes.

Face facts.

oh, so you know: your generalized incoherence, lack of punctuation, and use of such PC terms as "framers" marks you for a DU-troll.

[raysol]

Excuses excuses & nag nag nag.I dont concern myself with the
opinions of the uninformed or banal cheerleaders for the
sorry status quo.The founding fathers would NOT be in Iraq
let alone support that phony conservative Big Brother Bush other than to impeach that presidential imposter who isnt
dit to be in any public office.Jail to the Chief.

[raysol]

Excuses excuses & nag nag nag.I dont concern myself with the
opinions of the uninformed or banal cheerleaders for the
sorry status quo.The founding fathers would NOT be in Iraq
let alone support that phony conservative Big Brother Bush other than to impeach that presidential imposter who isnt
fit to be in any public office.Jail to the Chief.